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Florida Cities Are Drowning In Pension Debt : The Sunshine State follows the Golden State
Business Insider ^ | 02/14/2011 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 02/14/2011 11:25:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Unfunded pension obligations are a "ticking time bomb" for cities and counties across Florida, according to a new report.

The report, from researchers at Florida State University, found that local government's have failed to set aside enough money to fund generous pension and health care plans for public employees. Now, as baby-boomers reach retirement, pension obligations are putting a serious strain on already tight municipal budgets.

The problem is affecting nearly every large city in Florida. Miami, one of the worst offenders, only set aside $74 million of the $100 million it owed in 2009, the Miami Herald reports. Orlando and Fort Lauderdale underfunded their pension plans by 30%.

On average, pension obligations are nearly 10% of Florida cities' annual spending, the report says. In Miami and St. Petersburg, retirement costs are more than 50% of total payrolls.

The study comes on the heels of Florida Gov. Rick Scott's $65 billion budget proposal, which includes a sweeping overhaul of the state employee pension system.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: broke; debt; fl; florida; goldenstate; pensiondebt; pensions; porkulus; public; scott; states; unions

1 posted on 02/14/2011 11:26:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Florida Repubs are RINOs and the FL Dems are the spawn of Satan. Where was Jeb that “great” Gov?


2 posted on 02/14/2011 11:28:59 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is so ridiculous. First of all the reason for this is because millions upon millions of boomers are ready to retire. Secondly, this is the LAST group that gets the great retirement. 1987 on DO NOT GET THIS GREAT DEAL!!!! I wish FREEPERS would educate themselves instead of adding everyone in the pot. I guess that is too much to ask.


3 posted on 02/14/2011 11:29:28 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind

To Gov Rick Scott and all other serious FL budget cutters..”Gentlemen, start your engines.”


4 posted on 02/14/2011 11:29:43 AM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Odd.
Those cities are liberal big Democrat centers of power in this state.
Just a coincidence, I’m sure.....................


5 posted on 02/14/2011 11:30:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Frantzie

Never mind certain facts like for example those cities - like most cities - are ruled by LIB DEMS...


6 posted on 02/14/2011 11:32:14 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: napscoordinator

Are all of the FL municipal employess (many, various communities) in the SAME plan? You said (those hired?) from 1987 on do not get this great deal? Isn’t part of the problem related to the fact that the plans used defined benefits in the past, and projected higher investment earnings than have been attained? Or is is just because millions and millions of boomers are retiring in Florida now/soon?


7 posted on 02/14/2011 12:06:42 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Red Badger

Study: States must fill $1 trillion pension gap
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35448576/ns/us_news-life
HARRISBURG, Pa. - States may be forced to reduce benefits, raise taxes or slash government services to address a $1 trillion funding shortfall in public sector retirement benefits, according to a new study that warns of even more debilitating costs if immediate action isn’t taken.
Another time bomb waiting to go off.
I’ve been reading this for years.

—nowhere is it more true than CA an NY. They are the models of our pending demise. don’t expect any in government to take any SERIOUS action .
http://www.pensiontsunami.com/public.php


8 posted on 02/14/2011 12:08:03 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NEMDF

Or is is just because millions and millions of boomers are retiring in Florida now/soon?

That is the problem right there. These states have known for YEARS that this was coming up and like Social Security they ignored the problem. Well it is time to pay the piper and now the states are complaining. I laugh at their stupidity.


9 posted on 02/14/2011 12:10:43 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: CutePuppy; stephenjohnbanker; ken5050; Grampa Dave; Condor51
LEHMAN BANKRUPTCY DEBACLE HITS FLORIDA ----Biggest casualty when Lehman went bankrupt was Fla's giant pension fund. More than $440M disappeared due to a $230M hit from Lehman's stocks and bonds. The pension fund holds another $53M in Lehman bonds that lost most of their value and has $323M tied up in toxic mtg-related securities purchased from Lehman. Sold today, Fla's pension fund would lose another $188M.

Lehman's managed Fla's public assets, sold securities, underwrote bond deals, and handled residential and commercial mortgages. Local FLA governments are stuck with about $556M in tainted securities that they can't redeem.

Fla's hurricane claims, health care, community colleges and infants with disabilities care are in jeopardy. Counties, cities, school districts face more than $300M in losses for roads, sewers and schools.

In total, Fla lost $1Billion from Lehman's bankruptcy.

HOW MUCH WAS YOUR STATE HIT FROM LEHMAN'S BANKRUPTCY?

10 posted on 02/14/2011 12:14:04 PM PST by Liz
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To: Frantzie

Jeb was in charge of the coming meltdown.


11 posted on 02/14/2011 12:14:45 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Liz

Sink was in charge of sinking that deal.


12 posted on 02/14/2011 12:16:45 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: napscoordinator

Can you please explain the fact you offered about 1987 and Florida then? And your comment about FReepers not doing their research? I don’t understand what point you are trying to make about FReepers and Florida’s retirement plan shortfalls. The problem with the states having the shortfalls, might be humorous to some, but where those plans and benefits cannot be renegotiated or shorn up, the working taxpayers will be left holding the financial obligations.


13 posted on 02/14/2011 12:29:41 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: SeekAndFind

This is how politicians “make budget”. They underfund pension plans or self-insurance plans. Thus, they can give the employees big raises without increasing taxes.

Taxpayers need to hold the local politicians feet to the fire.


14 posted on 02/14/2011 12:53:14 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Liz

OUCH


15 posted on 02/14/2011 5:35:31 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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