Posted on 02/11/2011 1:53:50 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Hosni Mubarak had harsh words for the United States and what he described as its misguided quest for democracy in the Middle East in a telephone call with an Israeli lawmaker a day before he quit as Egypt's president. The legislator, former cabinet minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, said on TV Friday that he came away from the 20-minute conversation on Thursday with the feeling the 82-year-old leader realized "it was the end of the Mubarak era". "He had very tough things to say about the United States," said Ben-Eliezer, a member of the Labor Party who has held talks with Mubarak on numerous occasions while serving in various Israeli coalition governments. "He gave me a lesson in democracy and said: 'We see the democracy the United States spearheaded in Iran and with Hamas, in Gaza, and that's the fate of the Middle East,'" Ben-Eliezer said. "'They may be talking about democracy but they don't know what they're talking about and the result will be extremism and radical Islam,'" he quoted Mubarak as saying. U.S. support for pro-democracy elements in Iran has not led to regime change in the Islamic Republic, and Hamas, a group Washington considers to be a terrorist organization, won a 2006 Palestinian election promoted by the United States. Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip in 2007 after a coalition government it formed with Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas collapsed in a power struggle. Ben-Eliezer said Mubarak expanded in the telephone call on "what he expects will happen in the Middle East after his fall". "He contended the snowball (of civil unrest) won't stop in Egypt and it wouldn't skip any Arab country in the Middle East and in the Gulf.
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“Cuba in the 1890s was suffering under Spanish misrule. We got rid of the Spanish—now they have Castro.”
Bad example - Castro is 60 years post-Spanish.
There are brutal dictatorships around the world. I don’t see Obama & co promoting Democracy or encouraging or demanding the exit of any radical Left dictatorships. Why Mubarak, a 30 yr ally of America and the West? Always supporting & bowing down to ChiCom leader Hu Jintao, the Commie murdering Castro Brothers, Ortega in Nicaragua & Barry’s BFF the America hating Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.
No. Yes. No.
Works for me.
The Coptic Christians suffered more under Mubarak than Iraqi Christians did under Saddam. Saddam left them alone in many ways.
You know why? Because Saddam was fully in charge in Iraq while Mubarak also tried to suck up to the Muslim Brotherhood just to keep the peace.
Saddam knew that he had nothing to fear from the Christians — Mubarak was willing to sacrifice them. Mubarak was a cowardly a-hole and Egypt will get another one, only this one will be bigger.
yea the same guy who said on a thread about Michelle Bachmann running in 2012 and I quote”She will split the MILF vote”.
If this is on the conservative right then we are truly screwed
I remember the day Anwar Sadat was assasinated. The Muslim Brotherhood carried out the killing. Remembering the news, always assumed Mubarak was in on it.
Maybe that was a bit of a stretch...but if Cuba were still under Spanish rule they wouldn’t have Castro.
“The Coptic Christians suffered more under Mubarak than Iraqi Christians did under Saddam. Saddam left them alone in many ways.
You know why? Because Saddam was fully in charge in Iraq while Mubarak also tried to suck up to the Muslim Brotherhood just to keep the peace.
Saddam knew that he had nothing to fear from the Christians — Mubarak was willing to sacrifice them. Mubarak was a cowardly a-hole and Egypt will get another one, only this one will be bigger.”
The Coptic Christians suffered more under Mubarak than Iraqi Christians did under Saddam. Saddam left them alone in many ways.
You know why? Because Saddam was fully in charge in Iraq while Mubarak also tried to suck up to the Muslim Brotherhood just to keep the peace.
Saddam knew that he had nothing to fear from the Christians — Mubarak was willing to sacrifice them. Mubarak was a cowardly a-hole and Egypt will get another one, only this one will be bigger.”
The Coptic Christians suffered more under Mubarak than Iraqi Christians did under Saddam. Saddam left them alone in many ways.
You know why? Because Saddam was fully in charge in Iraq while Mubarak also tried to suck up to the Muslim Brotherhood just to keep the peace.
Saddam knew that he had nothing to fear from the Christians — Mubarak was willing to sacrifice them. Mubarak was a cowardly a-hole and Egypt will get another one, only this one will be bigger.”
Exactly. Saddam was a type of proper secular leader for ME society which is a pot of snakes and has to be handled that way. These people are driven by hate most of the time and their idea of liberty is a freedom to kill infidels. Other freedoms aren’t considered at all. Saddam had his answer on that. He just chopped islamists’ heads off. He also killed everyone suspected to sympatiseing islamists. A lot ‘ve been told on his handling of Kurds but try to be in Saddam’s shoes for a moment. Kurds are run by a commies and they has a goal to ruin both Iraq and Turkey to built a socialist state on their territory.
If you have a bit softer liberal approach like Mubarak did and stop repressing dissent there it ends up the way it did in Iran and now Egypt. Iraq hasn’t change to better place in this regard after Saddam removal as well. It won’t stand a month after coalition troops withdrawal.
Christians are not like that and that is the reason their suffering under Saddam wasn’t so hard.
To evaluate Mubarek and the US’s stance toward him for 30 years, one has to consider Jean Kirkpatrick’s differentiation between authoritarian governments and totalitarian government.
Those are the real choices for a great part of the world.
It is the authoritarian dictator, where one has a range of choices versus totalitarain governments like Islamic regimes, where choices are far more restricted.
Limited government, with constitutional guarantees for freedom and libery, are the rare exception in world history, and are the result of unique cultures.
We shall see what the Egyptian people are capable of.
Will they end up like Gaza or Iran, or Afghanistan under the Taliban ?
lol....
Enough of these failed foreign policies schemes....America needs to get back to the business of America.
Bump
Problem with that theory is the MB will be supported by Iran, which will further harm US interest re: oil.
“It’s obvious what YOUR motives are.”
Apparently, one was outing you as another moronic Paultard.
Me, I’d love isolationism, but unfortunately the world is very small now.
Mubarak new the Obamarats were selling him down the river, to soon be replaced by Islamic fanatics.
Bzzzt. Incorrect. I’ve never voted for Ron Paul, or sent him money, or campaigned for him. Nice try. Typical, tedious, and ignorant, but nice anyway.
Neoconservatism belongs on the ash heap.
I guess your felony convictions are holding you back from voting?
You’re a Paultard isolationist, whether you know it or not.
Nope. I always vote. I even voted for Woodrow Wil...I mean George W Bush.
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