The above is a transcript of an interview that Orlov did with The Nation magazine (a very leftist publication).
If you prefer the video link of the interview it is here.
He has written a book on this topic:
The above is a transcript of an interview that Orlov did with The Nation magazine (a very leftist publication).
If you prefer the video link of the interview it is here.
He has written a book on this topic:
When they check out of the productivity line and start standing in the giveaway benefit lines or they just abandon the government and the rest of the society leeches, we are undone.
The final trigger will be the day Obama gets re-elected. If that happens you'll see a drop-out not seen since the likes of the 60s hippie drop-out phenomenon....
Personally? I've already decided what it will be. This is my last year of contribution - I've started preparing for the worst.
In other words you can’t spend your way out of debt.
Or tax yourself into prosperity.
Sounds like he agrees with Daniel Hannan.
I was following along OK until we got to Global Warming. The author is a nut job.
The United States system will collapse because no one connected to the power mechanism is allowed to invest and fail.
A unsustainable thing can only go on for so long.
These systems have nothing, yet everything, to do with capitalism.
Good find.
I think Orlov makes a very good initial point: the USSR collapsed because the people didn’t buy into their system and weren’t willing to keep it going. It made no difference to them since they knew that there was no way keeping “the system” was going to better their lives. The problem with the USSR was that nobody ever really bought into “the system” to begin with. Under Lenin and Stalin, the “consent of the governed” was given under duress. Under Khruschev, the fear began to fade, and under Brezhnev, when people stopped being scared they realized they just didn’t give a damn.
Americans have a different history. We always cared. The issue is whether or not we still do. I am no longer willing to make any voluntary sacrifice to a federal government that only lies to me, steals from me, and to the extent it ever notices me, wants to make me subservient to and dependent upon it. I, who once considered myself a great patriot, find myself more and more aligned with my former Soviet counterparts.
And that’s a bad thing.
Unlike the Soviet Union, which has Russia at its core, the United States has no such core.
And, there are many who said that the soviet collapse was planned by the Politboro as early as Stalin’s death, and the fact that Putin and other thugs run the ex soviet states are evidence of this. By collapsing, the Russians were able to cause their greatest enemy to weaken.
However, the Russians still retain their core, and still control most of their near abroad (Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, ect)
However, I don't think we'd come apart like Orlov contends. I respect his experience, but we have been the United States far longer than Russia was the USSR.
Our system needs a correction and it's coming. But if we survive it and/or even avoid the worst of it, with inspired leadership and our sense of community a far better America could arise from ashes. The TEA party movement supports this hope. We need a trial by fire to temper us and reteach us what the rules are.
1. Global warming is a lie and a farce. Climate unpredictability, however, is real enough.
2. I’ve been saying for years that the demographics control. One baby per woman eventually leads to population loss of about 3% per year (European Western Europe). Three babies per woman leads to 3% growth per year (Islam, including Islam in the West). So if France is now 10% Islamic, then, in two generations, 50 years, 2061, France is 90% Islamic without any conversions at all.
3. Peak oil happened before. In 1859, whale kills were plummeting, and the U.S. Northern States faced a dark future. Then we found oil in the ground, in Pennsylvania and many other places. The future is not windmills, which consume more useful power than they produce. It could be a combination of natural gas and coal, after a few winters without heat. Longer term (5-15 years), it’s going to be uranium and especially thorium, as soon as the people who want 6 billion people to die worldwide lose their political clout. The self-called “environmentalists” will lose, and lose big.
When we start massive building of coal and nuclear power plants, and use oil for pharmaceuticals and transportation (electricity for cars is a dream that won’t work because it’s not efficient), the U.S. economy will again grow like it did before 1969, when Nixon and a Demonrat Congress started shutting the doors on progress by giving the NIMBY (not in my back yard) people veto power over the rest of the people who want electricity and gasoline and warm houses and all of the things that “environmentalists” hate.
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” witnessed the Soviet collapse, and then later on I couldn’t help but notice that something very similar is happening to the United States.
That’s because the elites and world intelligentsia are reducing the two superpowers to Socialist Republics, which will be states in their planned world-nation.
, very worried about the United States because I saw the United States as not nearly as well prepared for collapse as the Soviet Union. You see, the Russian people never had a great deal of faith in their government or in the system, so they grew and gathered a lot of their own food, they relied on private, personal connections, there was a very large gray or black economy that provided most of what people needed. So when the system went away, people had something to hold onto,
I had a chance to work in Mongolia after the collapse. The project was to privatize the state farms. I went to visit one of the state dairy farms, these were immense enterprises. Stood in one of the cavernous buildings, looked up and around and it was stripped. My mind thought thru the process. First to know was upper management, they grabbed the cash,liquid assets and cars. Middle management claimed the livestock and machinery to haul it away in. Workers grabbed what they could carry in hands and went home.
But the most vivid memory was looking down and seeing that there was still manure in the gutter. NO ONE RAN THE MANURE CHAIN THE LAST TIME, IT HAPPENED THAT FAST.
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When the dust settles, those who have prepared and survived, can begin the work of clean up an rebuilding.
A lot of people just don’t have the right character to deal with collapse. They’ll be running around trying to fix things. That’s the opposite of what they should be doing.
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What states will receive economic aid? Who will be able to provide it? Will those states with energy and food to trade be of value? How valuable is NYC? Chicago?
Thanks for posting it Jack I thought it was worth reading. I see parallels to our current economic problems and the kleptocrats running our government.