Posted on 02/07/2011 11:39:17 AM PST by EBH
CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said on Monday it could pull out of talks with the government if opposition demands were not met, including the immediate exit of President Hosni Mubarak who on Monday chaired a cabinet meeting.
Mubarak, 82, who refuses calls to end his 30-year-old rule before September polls, saying his resignation would cause chaos in the Arab world's most populous nation, has tried to focus on restoring order and his government seems to be buying time.
Protesters, barricaded in a tent camp in Tahrir Square in the heart of Cairo, have vowed to stay until Mubarak quits and hope to take their campaign to the streets with more mass demonstrations on Tuesday and Friday.
Keen to get traffic moving around Tahrir Square, the army tried early on Monday to squeeze the area the protesters have occupied. Overnight campers rushed out of their tents to surround soldiers attempting to corral them into a smaller area.
The powerful army's role in the next weeks is considered critical to the future of Egypt.
"The army is getting restless and so are the protesters. The army wants to squeeze us into a small circle in the middle of the square to get the traffic moving again," protester Mohamed Shalaby, 27, told Reuters by telephone.
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Works for me. All of the above should be taken for a long walk off a short pier. (Personal experience with SEIU...)
Since I don’t own a handgun (fixed income, no credit) don’t suspend me again, OK JR? Voicing an opinion is all.
NewsFlash! Many Egyptian officers were trained in the good ole USA.....where the heck you think Egypt sends pilots for F-16 training.....;) Where do the Egyptian maintenance officers go....jeese. Pull your head out and quit believing pew and the rest of the commie rags.....
Works for me. All of the above should be taken for a long walk off a short pier. (Personal experience with SEIU...)
Since I don’t own a handgun (fixed income, no credit) don’t suspend me again, OK JR? Voicing an opinion is all.
You have very succinctly put what I was using too many words to say. Had Obama and his Kiddie Kommie Korps played this straight up from the git-go, this would have already blown over.
This whole set-up has Iranian fingerprints, DNA, and fiber evidence all over it. Give it another week, before Mubarak's boys take off the gloves. I feel that Mubarak will take a hike because he's has not been 100% physically. But good general that he is, he will leave behind a strong interim government to take the country to elections. If the MB starts feeling too frisky, all bets are off. If they get out of line, they will be crushed. (That'll be me cheering in the background)
Big loser: The Mombasa Moonbeam. He abandoned Mubarak early ... but now he's trying to weasel back in ...Foxtrot Oscar Alfa Hotel.
Right, and they also were the second most accurate poll in the last presidential election and accurately predicted the large Republican victory in 2010.
Of course, I'd love to see a recent poll of the beliefs of average Egyptians from a pollster you like.
No bigotry at all. I don't like Islamists not because of who they are but because of what they believe. Anyone who believes in the savagery that is the cult of sharia and jihad is my enemy. No bigotry and no apology.
What a tool! The U.S. military has trained soldiers from just about every despotic state there ever was. This does not make them our friends or even civilized. It just means that, at one point or other, our "leaders" thought it was a good idea to train them, usually because they were fighting someone we didn't like. The Saudis are the greatest supporters of anti-American terrorists in the world and we happily train their military. Maybe you forgot how the U.S. military trained Iraqi special ops troops during the Iran Iraq war. Savage islamists and we trained them. Later, of course, we had to fight them.
Wake up and smell the jihad.
This is one obvious, maybe TOO obvious way, the MB’s found to ally themselves with the general mood of the street protestors and their “Mubarak-get-out-NOW” mood.
They see it as a direct conduit to a broad-based emotion
that’s not going away, and it’s probably more their creation than anyone else’s-—at least it’s one very exploitable feature of this whole upheaval. I don’t think it’ll work out in the MB’s favor, though. They will return eventually to the exact same status they had months ago, and if they’re not careful, they might be even further marginalized.
I expect if push came to shove, the Egyptian military would round up the full leadership of the MB, and send them to their virgins awaiting them in paradise.
The military of Egypt now has close ties with the US military. They train with us , attend our military colleges, and know about freedom first hand.
They will not give what freedom they have to the MB, not without a fight.They were neutral durinng the protests because they new it was a fake bunch of Obama/Code Pink computer kids feeling their oats , and a mass of hangers on.
The military stayed their hand. But I agree with you, they will not tolerate a take over by the MB.So the MB must arm itself, and I suspect that Obama is helping the MB to do just that, ordnanace coming from China on the Obama credit card.This is something that they must be very vigilant about in the Mubarak government. I am sure the Israelis will help prevent the armament of the Muslim Brotherhood.
I am glad Obama failed. This traces the Obama campaign in Egypt, supported by US MSM propaganda:
First the telegraph of London reports the Egyptian revolutionary radicals at conferences in the USA:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2665250/posts
And then the capers of Bernedette Dorn and Bill Ayers in Cairo:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2664849/posts
Code Pink: Obama, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood Ally Raising (Tax Exempt) Money to Overthrow Egypt Gov’t
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2668652/posts
Great Community Organizing work there Obama!!!/S
Muslim Brotherhood invited to Obamas Cairo Speech 2009
Obama and the Shadow Socialist Group Behind Egypt’s Fall?
An Egyptian Warns the United States ( Obama) to Back Off
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2668365/posts?page=1
ex-CIA Agent Reveals: “Muslim Brotherhood” has infiltrated Obama Administration
Obama pals provoked Egypt chaos
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2668238/posts
US ‘desertion’ of Mubarak dismays Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2669749/posts
Obama’s Role in Empowering the Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2669698/posts
Egypt protests: Muslim Brotherhood ‘to join talks’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2669292/posts
The Stated Plan of The Muslim Brotherhood , Trial Documents Exhibit, Internal Document
of Muslim Brotherhood Plans and Policy, ( Scroll Down for English Translation)
http://babylonscovertwar.com/Analysis/Muslim%20BrotherHood_Plans_GOV_Exh_003_0085.pdf
Yeah, I think that quote has to be taken in the context in which it was asked, time-wise and otherwise: it almost sounds like a push-poll. Sorry I’m not as “wised-up” as some people on this thread, but I don’t think the MB has any real chance to extend or capitalize on its already marginal influence or power in Egyptian society. I don’t exactly know what or who it is who the MB can “take control of” to gain it access to the levers of the Egyptian economy and society that would enable it to set Egypt on a course toward development, far high employment numbers, more affordable housing, and MORE THAN THAT, keep it ISOLATED from the kind of permanent chaos on the world stage that people like El Baradei would require of it. Egyptians recognize that their problems are practical, and I think plenty of them realize that deep-down, exchanging Mubarak for the Jihadist Muslim Brotherhood would make their situation far worse, not better.
Good to see, as I scroll back and forth, someone showing some perspective and realism on this thread.
See my #69 and #71.
Seem to be a lot of ‘doom-and-gloomers’ weighing in on
something they really haven’t given much thought to, as they anticipate the beginnings of all the Mid-East dominos falling in favor of Radical Islam. I see them in fact, falling the OTHER way.
Thanks for all the info and links, Candor. That was my gut feel, but I didn't have the facts to back it up.
His stupid and cheap grandstanding has made things far worse in Egypt. But, it apparently has played very well here at home. That will encourage the deluded fool to meddle some more. He is preparing to take credit for bringing "democracy" to Egypt.
Result: we now have two sets of enemies where we had a loyal friend, and the word of America as an ally has been further undermined. Mubarak will pull this out. But he'll be looking for a new big brother, probably in Moscow.
Aw what a shame to miss out on their point of view....
Nothing surprises you about this administration, but I was taken aback by the reference to ‘transition’ so early on.
I lean toward Obama being a part of the same movement that claims to be the freedom fighters in Egypt (in a round-about way), but it could very easily be that he’s just this fricken stupid too.
It’s not going to be long before China is going to start scooping up these nations as we blow it more frequently.
We are throwing away good will that took decades if not longer to develop.
MB may not attend talks?
Ass....door....and all that.
Yep. They would not leave the talks if they were getting what they wanted.
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