Egyptians Turning on Each Other (EGYPT LIVE THREAD # 2)

FOX NEWS ^ | 2 February 2011

[SE Mom]

URGENT: Gunfire heard in Cairo's Tahrir Square as supporters of President Mubarak and anti-government demonstrators clash hours after the embattled leader defiantly said he would serve out his term in office.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Kind of clueless that these “peaceable” demonstrators have been in some severe fracases when they thought the cameras were not looking.

[SE Mom]

Megyn Kelly is going to be interviewing Dan Gillerman (former Israeli UN ambassador) within the hour. He’s a brilliant guy and will be worth listening to.

[HiTech RedNeck]

tweeting from a couple of centuries ago? duh, oh.

[firebrand]

Wait, he’s pro-MB, right? So now it has suddenly become useful to like the Tea Party? Fit that right into the template: The only time a liberal likes the Tea Party is . . . when it can be used to help destroy Israel.

[combat_boots]

On Feb 4th, the PLO was formed. Friday is tbe Muslim day of worship and ‘sermons’ against the West. This Friday is Feb. 4th.

0bama’s 1st phone call was to Mahmoud Abbas. The 1st interview to Al-Arabiya. 0bama’s upcoming appearance to reporters will be Feb. 4th, to answer questions about Egypt and support of ?

[Raebie]

bkmk

[oh8eleven]

Say, where is the Secretary of State?
I think she went home to teach her daughter how to have a successful marriage.
Oh wait ...

[HiTech RedNeck]

Some of these newsies have their head so far in the clouds they can’t see what’s going on at their feet. Others know and are egging it on.

[oh8eleven]

“Yeah, but we ain’t played Cowboys and Muslims yet.”
LOL ... that was worthy of a double post!

[musicman]

"The policy of the media is to lie, deceive , manipulate to cover for their messiah."

[Girlene]

Egyptian Protesters Hurling Molotov Cocktails, Rocks in Cairo

In scenes of uncontrolled violence, government backers galloped in on horses and camels, only to be dragged to the ground by their rivals and beaten bloody.

Hey, wait a minute......I thought all the violence was being perpetrated by the Mubarak thugs, not the anti-Mubarak peaceful protestors. Guess someone forgot to read their talking points.

[firebrand]

In my neighborhood, some are leaving for Israel.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Young protester in Egypt talking to Megyn Kelly says that Muslim Brotherhood has no interest in breaking peace with Israel.

Yeah, right. /s

[Girlene]

Seems the obama administration is really pushing to get Mubarak out now. From Reuters, Unrest in Egypt

"A senior official in Obama's administration, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said Egyptian President Mubarak's inner circle is debating whether he needs to do more to meet the demands of anti-government protesters.

"The violence on the streets, and the difficult position it puts the army in, could very well convince the army that something more has to be done and it could apply its own pressure on President Mubarak," the official said."...........

........."In a White House press briefing, Robert Gibbs says it's clear that the Egyptian people need to see progress and change immediately"..........

........"White House says Obama's message to Mubarak in a phone call on Tuesday was 'The time for change has come'.".........

[manc]

here is what obama said in his own book on page 261 I stand with Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. end quote. We know where he stands and he is helping islam to spread while pissing on our allies. The we have our media, including FOX who had a college guy on and tried to say the violence is all pro Govt but then ignoring the muslim brotherhood. Hell so this is our new foreign policy,, help islam to spread and then have these msulim fanatics or mad muslim supporters on TV like FOX just did

[ColdOne]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8298587/Egypt-crisis-Mubarak-supporters-on-horseback-attack-anti-government-protesters.html

Egypt crisis: Mubarak supporters on horseback attack anti-government protesters

[DoughtyOne]

Along the same lines with what you asked me, I would like you to consider what the Democrats have to gain by destroying this nation. It would seem suicidal to you and I. And yet, their policies are making this nation weaker, our resolve almost non-existent, and our rule of law severely negatively impacted.

I don’t really have much more to add than that this is evil in it’s purest form. It is destructive. It is even suicidal. And yet, it clearly exists in our leaders.

[manc]

NAIL ON HEAD and our corrupt media lies for him.

I could not believe I heard a pro muslim brotherhood guy talk on FOX and Megyn kelly thought it was all good and he was a saint while pretending that the pro Govt is doing all the trouble

the world has gone mad and this country has done a 180 with policies

change we do not want

[sunmars]

If someone is charging you with a horses and camels trying to run you down, you’d drag them off and whallop them as well.

[odds]

Iran for centuries - even as we know it today - has consisted of many different ethnic groups (other than ethnic “Persians”), religions, dialects & languages, and so on.. Many are “Iranic” people, others are not.

“Iranian” refers to the country of Iran, is a nationality, is all encompassing of those abovementioned groups & is the correct term to use for Iran (pronounced “e-raan”), present or past, pre or post Islam.

Persian often refers to the Persian ethnicity, language, the broader Persian (Iranian) culture, Persian carpet, etc...

I can very much appreciate those Iranians wanting to distance & differentiate themselves from the “Iranian Mullahs” by presenting themselves as “Persians” outside Iran & to foreigners.

My personal view is that both Persian and/or Iranian are perfectly appropriate & acceptable.

Don’t know how much you already know about Iran & various associated aspects such as history, languages, ethnicities, religions, etc.. - Take a look at the info & exchange of comments & links in this earlier FR thread. Posts #5 to #10 may answer at least some of your questions.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2446913/posts?page=9#9

Happy to discuss any other related points later on.