Posted on 02/01/2011 11:35:48 AM PST by jdoug666
The birthers have a plan to end Barack Obama's presidencyand in Arizona, they're making progress.
(Excerpt) Read more at motherjones.com ...
It actually isn’t a bad article except for the gratuitous slurs against the birthers and crazies. Probably part of the Mother Jones’ style book to keep their core audience happy.
But, it would not end it if it were not true, eh?
0bama will receive the electoral repudiation he has coming in 2012; and he will certainly be on the ballot. Bet on it!
Do you care to bet against it?
you posted
“No to worry the article suggests that the long form BC might simply have been mis-filed. So, its okay if Hussein cant produce it.”
So that will be their excuse? the dog ate it?
Seriously would 0dumbites really think people would believe something as important as his original was lost after 2008?
I love that this is staying around, even at the edges. 0dumbo scammed many people but not all
Glad to see the idjits at Mother Jones are getting nervous over this very real issue.
If he doesn’t provide proof of eligibility in Arizona or any other state that enacts such eligibility legistaion, and he doesn’t run because of it, that would lead to real suspicion that THE 1 wan’t qualified to run and hold the office of POTUS in the first place. That woulde then open a can of worms that would, we pray, lead to not only his but Pelosi’s, Reids’s, and others trials and convictions for the biggest fraud ever perpetrated in this country’s history. Everything he did while in office illegaly would then be open for review and or total reversal. That includes his appointments to the US Supreme Court. Sotomeyer and Kagan would be sitting on the Court under fraudulant terms. All of this would be unchartered territory. It would be interesting to see if it ever plays out.
How Obama got on the Arizona ballot in 2008:
http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf
Actually, little or no effect. From the very start it was crystal clear in the government that once the electoral college had its say, that was it, even if they voted a dog to be president.
Though they are, by tradition, supposed to vote their first ballot for the candidate they represent, they are not obligated to (which could be reasonable, if say, a candidate died). But if a president is not selected in a first ballot, all electors become free agents, and can vote for anyone they want.
The solidity of the presidency was further affirmed in 1810 in the Marbury v. Madison decision, in which the president was ordered to act by the SCOTUS, and refused to do so, saying as a co-equal branch they could not force him to act.
This means that once in office, impeachment and conviction are the only way to remove a president. Importantly, while presidents have been impeached twice, only once has a member of the presidents’ cabinet been impeached.
This situation becomes dangerous with a recent presidential innovation: the presidential signing statement. Clearly unconstitutional, when congress passes a bill and sends it to the president to sign, he adds a statement that says how he *interprets* the bill, and what parts he will *enforce* and what parts he will *neglect*. This almost negates the need for a congress at all.
Finally, every president since Truman has created and recreated a litany of emergency decrees in which he could assume dictatorial emergency powers. Presidents of both parties have engaged in this corruption, which paints a bizarre portrait of the presidency.
In any event, the SCOTUS has quietly made it clear that they think Obama is illegitimate, but that he will remain in office for one term, and not run for reelection. Their rationale is that while the birth requirement exists in the constitution, it has never been fleshed out with enabling laws, nor is there anyone responsible for its enforcement.
While this is indeed a travesty, they cannot remove him from office, but they can prevent him from running for reelection, which is the extent of their powers. And, as long as he remains in office, what he does will be accepted as legitimate, unless he is impeached and removed by congress.
I wanted to read this article to see if the author could generate a reason for Obama to not produce a irth certificate. The closest he came had to do with the possibility that the original long form was “lost.”
All this time we had been told it wasn’t an issue. Now even Obama’s biggest rah-rah is implicitly admitting that Obama may not be willing to release the LFBC even with a state’s electoral votes on the line.
AT NO TIME IS THERE EVEN AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE A LEGITIMATE REASON TO AVOID RELEASING THE DOCUMENT.
I saw Corn and Prissy Mathews on PMSNBC last night talking about this. I was laughing out loud because it seemed obvious that they know something is up with Obama’s long form BC and rather than address it head on, they try to delude their die hard lefty viewers that the real issue is the vast Tea Party racist Conspiracy is out to get poor Barry.
I was actually surprised they spoke for almost 5 minutes on the topic. They use the same dissembling language equating the the COLB as being the same as the Long Form BC to try to confuse the gullible 23 viewers who watch HardBall. In the end, anyone with a brain knows the issue about the BC is around because Barry has tired to pull one over on the American people. On page 26 in Dreams From My Father, Barry talks about having his BC stuffed amongst other papers in a shoebox. If that is so, why get a COLB printed out in 2008 from the State of Hawaii?
He and his handlers may not want to put him up for re-election because it would mean for him to have to show his BC. If it happens to be a fake, he may end up behind bars.
The damage done during his first term is already extensive — his handlers would not want to take the chance that it is reversed.
Obama continues to refuse to provide the media with school records, passports, college theses, law school records, law firm clients, medical records, Illinois State Senate files, and other documents about his record:
Original vault copy (long form) birth certificate not released
Certificate of live birth (short form) alleged forgery released
Dunham-Obama marriage license not released
Dunham-Soetoro marriage license not released
Soetoro adoption records not released
Besuki School application obtained
Punahou School records not released
Selective Service Registration alleged forgery released
Occidental College records not released
Passport (Indonesian) not released
Passport (U.S.) not released
Columbia University records not released
Columbia University thesis not released
Harvard Law School records not released
Harvard Law Review articles none released
Baptism certificate none released
Medical records not released (except for a one-page statement saying Obama is healthy)
Illinois State Senate records not released
Illinois State Senate schedule not released (alleged to have been lost)
Law practice client list and billing records not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles none released (and none perhaps ever written)
Campaign donor analysis not released
List of all campaign workers who are lobbyists not released
List of trips outside the United States before 2008 not released
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html
I don’t think he scammed many people. I think there are millions of people on the Left and in the (old)GOP who would easily qualify as a ‘birther’.
The difference between them and us is that although they know something is ‘suspicious’, they just don’t care and even fight to suppress it.
They are so fanatic in their craziness, they wouldn’t care if Achmadinajad was Obama’s true father and Chavez is his brother.
They just don’t care.
What a Kornball. All he has to do is produce his damn BC. Korn must know Obama is illegal.
I bet Barry is using a lot of hair coloring these days. The stress of it all must be incredible. I’m just waiting for him to drop one of the balls he’s juggling. It will happen, there is no perfect crime.
>This guy is a black-box.<
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This guy is allowed to remain a black box because none of our congress critters have the stones to bring this riddle out in the open. Congress seems to have sided with him in this national swindle.
How could the Arizona law block Hussein’s re-election unless he is in fact not eligible?
That’s what I thought ...
I doubt any state that Baraq could plausibly win in 2012 voting will keep him off the ballot.
The states that may disqualify him are ones he wouldn’t win anyway.
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