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AMB. JOHN BOLTON: Is Democracy Coming to Egypt at Last?
Fox News ^ | 28 January 2011 | John Bolton (Interview)

Posted on 01/28/2011 11:48:36 AM PST by The Pack Knight

As seen on Fox News Channel's "Happening Now with Jon Scott and Jenna Lee" on January 28.

FORMER U.N. AMBASSADOR JOHN BOLTON: I think what's clearly happened today [in Egypt] is that the Muslim Brotherhood, the radical Islamist party in Egypt has called it's supporters into the street. I don't think it was present on the first two or three days.

I think after the Friday prayers the Brotherhood brought its people out. That's why the protests are even more extensive today. That constitutes no doubt about it a direct threat to the military government, and I think the failure of the other security forces to bring the demonstrations under control also now explains the presence of the military.

Let me be clear here, this is not just the Mubarak-family government. The military has ruled Egypt since Gamal Nasser and they over through King Farook.

It's the military that is the real government and they are not going to go peacefully.

I think the question is whether and to what extent the Muslim Brotherhood and radical Islamists have infiltrated the leadership. If the military holds firm it's entirely possible, although bloody, that the government can hold onto power. That doesn't necessarily mean Mubarak will be in power, but the military will be, and I think that is why this contrast makes it so important for people to understand, this is not a choice between the Mubarak government on one hand, and sweetness and light, Jeffersonian democracy on the other.

I don't think we have evidence yet that these demonstrations are necessarily about democracy. You know the old saying, "one person, one vote, one time." The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't care about democracy, if they get into power you're not going to have free and fair elections either.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bolton; egypt; egyptcrisis; johnbolton; mubarak; muslimbrotherhood
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Bolton is spot on, as usual. One of the best quotes (found in the rest of the interview at the link): "I don't think that just because you have people climbing onto tanks you can assume that they are friendly to democratic values."
1 posted on 01/28/2011 11:48:41 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: The Pack Knight
The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't care about democracy, if they get into power you're not going to have free and fair elections either.

That's my worry.

2 posted on 01/28/2011 11:51:25 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: The Pack Knight
It will be the kind of democracy that came to Iran, Lebanon and Gaza.

One man, One vote, One time.

3 posted on 01/28/2011 11:51:45 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. He's shovel ready!)
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To: Mikey_1962

exactly what ran through my mind


4 posted on 01/28/2011 11:53:03 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: The Pack Knight
Bolton is spot on.

No, Bolton is clueless as usual. He and his neo-con allies have supported tax aid to these dicatators for years. Now...we are suffering the blowback and he, and his ilk, have no way for us to respond.

5 posted on 01/28/2011 11:53:15 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't care about democracy, if they get into power you're not going to have free and fair elections either.

Bad to worse. I find it highly suspicious this kind of movement is occurring in nations like Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon. Guess who they surround. Were I a betting man, I'd wager Iran had some hand in this.

6 posted on 01/28/2011 11:53:19 AM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: The Pack Knight

Bolton 2012.


7 posted on 01/28/2011 11:53:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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If they are Muslim, you can bet there will be neither free or fair elections. In fact, there won’t be any elections, just death.


8 posted on 01/28/2011 11:53:34 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Mikey_1962

So, bascially, “Here’s the new crowd, same as the old crowd.”


9 posted on 01/28/2011 11:54:26 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: The Pack Knight
I don't think we have evidence yet that these demonstrations are necessarily about democracy.

I expect Bolt is correct. The reporting I've seen so far has been short on explanations of just why they are rioting, or what, if any, specific complaints and demands are being voiced. Sort of mystery so far. Maybe they want to scrap the peace treat and attack Israel again.

10 posted on 01/28/2011 11:54:49 AM PST by Will88
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To: The Pack Knight

Iran started out as a students’/workers’ revolt. It became co-opted by the radical islamists. (Whoever is more willing to use the most violence, wins.)
After the dust settled, many Iranians I knew went back to help establish a more ‘liberal’ policy. They were never heard from again. Tales came out about torture and firing squads, but they were never confirmed.


11 posted on 01/28/2011 11:54:54 AM PST by griswold3 (We defend conservatism by our very way of life.)
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If you're Mubarak, who is your greater enemy, Israel, or the radical Islam / Iran proxy crowd?

If I were Mubarak, I'd declare war with Israel right now. When all else fails, Islam drops infighting if it means they get to shoot at some jews.

12 posted on 01/28/2011 11:54:57 AM PST by blackdog
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This is the best article I have seen so far today about what has been going on in Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Jorden, etc. I thought that this is a pro democracy movement, I am starting to wonder if it is in order to bring back the glory of a long lost Muslim empire instead. Most likely the later.


13 posted on 01/28/2011 11:56:36 AM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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"He and his neo-con allies have supported tax aid to these dicatators for years."

Some highly skilled can-kicking (using OPM) that worked for a generation. Too bad that the trend is toward whabbism. Fifty years of SA can-kicking has created some definite structural problems in the ME.

14 posted on 01/28/2011 11:57:13 AM PST by Paladin2
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If the Muslim Brotherhood gets control, they will open the gate for the Palestinians to flood into Israel.

I predict: every radical Marxist and Muslim faction in the World will make their move in the next two years while there's a Fellow Traveler in the White House.

All you Jews who voted for Obama, you can kiss your homeland good-bye.

15 posted on 01/28/2011 11:58:38 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Captain Kirk
In this case I agree. Bolton is correct on the players, but does not draw the future logical conclusions from the victors.

Mubarak regime falls, an Iranian armed and led group of radicals takes over. Nukes soon to arrive.

Suddenly it's not about one or the other, it's about a nuclear arms race in Islam.

16 posted on 01/28/2011 11:58:40 AM PST by blackdog
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To: Captain Kirk
He and his neo-con allies have supported tax aid to these dicatators for years.

I believe those payments to Egypt were part of the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. Not sure they are optional, or if Bolton had anything to do with the terms of that treaty.

17 posted on 01/28/2011 11:59:04 AM PST by Will88
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To: dfwgator

Could we be seeing the next President of the United States in this very article?


18 posted on 01/28/2011 12:00:46 PM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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To: Captain Kirk

I like Bolton, but I absolutely agree - one can NOT manage Mid-East dictators or Islamists. They have been treacherous since the beginning of time. Its best just to avoid them as much as possible.

Israel is the only stable, pro-Western Republic in the entire Mid-East. Because of these simple advantages of freedom, wealth, and rule-of-law, a country of 8 million keeps 1+ billion Arabs on their toes. It shows who our natural Ally should be.


19 posted on 01/28/2011 12:01:16 PM PST by PGR88
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Bolton is "spot on".

Whatta bunch of crap. The only "democracy" that will occur in NutLand is the kind that Iran conducts: everyone votes to agree with the Chief Mullah.

That's all that will happen here. Welcome to the Carter Moment: another middle eastern country is handed over to the Islamic Jihad.

20 posted on 01/28/2011 12:01:51 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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