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Posted on 01/21/2011 4:12:18 PM PST by chatter4
Youtube video-Govenor of Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie now claiming he was told that there is a hand written notation of Obama's birth some where in the State Archives-LOL this is evidence?
"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.
"If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said.
Does this not mean there is no Birth Certificate that Obama can produce? If there is no Birth Certificate in Hawaii, then the document he posted on the internet has to be fake-It can't be a certified copy if there is no original.
If Zer0 had any part in posting that fake BC, you would think there would be some sort of penalty for such a forgery.
The dates are in North American format mm-dd-yyyy, not European format dd-mm-yyyy......
Is that true? Do you have a link for that?
I believe every trip Zer0 had made to Hawaii has been an effort to keep the lid on his long form Birth Certificate. I also believe that one of those trips was meant to expedite Madelyn “Toots” Dunham’s change to room temperature. The tossing of Toots’ ashes in the ocean was also suspicious. Why wasn’t she interned with her husband, who is buried in in the Punchbowl National Cemetery in Honolulu, Hawaii? Was it to destroy any possible forensic evidence in the ashes?
Or Barry Soetero, Barack Soetero, Barry Dunham, Barack Dunham, Barry Davis, Barack (Marshall) Davis, etc, etc, etc, Ditto for the educational records, travel visa, etc.
Good catch. Also kerning is evident in the doctor’s name ANG’AWA.
Obama has no birth certificate from Hawaii to produce or he would have done so a long time ago. His step-grandmother in Kenya has said she was there and witnessed his birth. Nobody in Hawaii, or any relatives or family friends has stepped forward with proof such as pictures, papers, etc., that shows he was born there. The Democrats keep saying that anybody who questions his American birth are tin-foil hatters. Remember when you were in grade school? If somebody wanted to discredit something you were saying did the name-calling thing. Kind of infantile with regard to this issue, is it not? The man could cure the problem in a heartbeat if he so chose, so as to defuse this question. Problem is, he would have to give up the seat of power he obtained illegally. Plus, he would incriminate all the members of the Democratic party that hid him just to win. If the man was real, and if the party who championed him was real, they would accede to the well being of the people and let the obvious surface. This government we have was formed by a group of people who were tired of the kind of deceit we are experiencing here. The rules for government that they put forth were based on their resistance to this kind of deception and demagoguery. What we are experiencing these days is the kind of thing the men who sat in Independence Hall in Philadelphia, and tried to formulate a resistance to is evident. We have to make their efforts worthwhile.
If it really exists and it says on race, “White”, now that would be interesting. (sarc)
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I believe every trip Zer0 had made to Hawaii has been an effort to keep the lid on his long form Birth Certificate.
New analysis of Democrat Party’s official 2008 Certification of Nominations for Obama reveals that reasons for his sudden trip to Hawaii in October, 2008 were to visit more than just his sick grandmother. Hawaiian election laws, media accounts and post-dated documents reveal he may have attended a private hearing with the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer regarding his disqualification from the Hawaiian ballot due to lack of certified Constitutional eligibility.
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REVIEWING THE FACTS
1. Electors from each state rely on each party’s state authority in that state to certify the nomination of their candidates and verify their legal qualifications to serve under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution.
2. Hawaiian election law specifically requires each state’s party authority to file a sworn application (Official Certification of Nomination) with Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer certifying the eligibility of each candidate to serve as President and Vice President of the United States.
3. Hawaii Revised Statute 11-113(c)(1)(B) specifically requires that this sworn application from each state party authority contains explicit language stating that all candidates are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution in order for the Chief Elections Officer to approve the candidate for placement on the state’s presidential ballot.
4. On August 27th, 2008, by notary attestment, authorities of the Democrat Party of Hawaii (DPH) signed a sworn Official Certification of Nomination and was required to submit the document to Hawaii’s Chief Election Officer, Kevin Cronin before 4:30 p.m. on September 5, 2008 or September 8, 2008 allowing for the count of one additional business day for one lost on Labor day.
5. The DPH, chaired by Brian Schatz, refused to include legally required language, per HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B), within the state party’s Official Certification of Nomination stating that Obama was Constitutionally eligible to serve as President.
6. The Democrat Party of Hawaii included this legally required language for other Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates in past elections dating to, at least, 2000 and 2004. Therefore, the omission of this language within the DPH’s 2008 OCON of Obama’s candidacy is not a mistake or an oversight. It was done intentionally and with full understanding of Brian Schatz that the Hawaiian CEO, Kevin Cronin, would not be legally permitted to approve Barack Obama as a candidate on the Hawaiian presidential ballot, unless the Democratic National Committee (the national party authority) included this language in its OCON.
7. The Republican Party of Hawaii included the legally required language in its sworn 2008 Official Certification of Nomination for John McCain and Sarah Palin, per HRS 11-113, without reservation or exceptions.
8. The Democrat Party of Hawaii refused to acknowledge that Barack Obama was legally qualified to serve as president under the provisions of U.S. Constitution and, therefore, the DPH refused to provide legal certification allowing the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer to approve the placement of Barack Obama on the Hawaiian presidential ballot.
9. Since the DPH did not provide legal certification of Barack Obama’s constitutional candidacy, Kevin Cronin, was required to send a written notice to Barack Obama informing him that the DPH refused to provide legal certification of his candidacy for approval of his inclusion on the State of Hawaii’s 2008 presidential ballot. Cronin was legally required to send this notification within 10 business days from the time Cronin received the OCON from the DPH. Cronin also had the option, under HRS 11-113, to extend the notification deadline five more business days for a total of 15 days from the day the DPH filed the OCON.
10. The DPH’s OCON is dated August 27th, 2008. However, HRS 11-113 provides that OCONs may be filed by 4:30 p.m. on no less than the 60th day prior to the day of the election. In this case, based on the alleged notarization date appearing the DPH’s OCON, the DPH still had eight more days to file the OCON and perhaps request verification documentation from Obama. Therefore, Obama received his notification of the Hawaiian CEO’s findings no later than September 29th, 2008.
11. However, documents provided by the Hawaiian Election Commission show that the Democratic National Committee, chaired by Nancy Pelosi, signed its 2008 Official Certification of Nomination with a date of August 28, 2008. However, documented evidence shows that the DNC also authored a separate version of its OCON at a later time. One version was sent only to Hawaii containing specific wording which directly contradicted that state party’s Constitutional authority to declare that Barack Obama was not constitutionally eligible to serve as President and was, therefore, not approved for inclusion on the Hawaiian presidential ballot.
12. Article IV-Section 4, Article IV-Section 1 and Article II-Section 1 of the Constitution grants sovereignty for certifying a candidate’s nomination and approving a candidate’s inclusion on each state’s presidential ballot to each state. The Democratic National Committee does not have the legal authority to supersede the sovereignty of Hawaii’s appointed authority to conduct election, approve ballot content and certify the nomination of candidates.
13. By intentionally contradicting the findings of Hawaii’s party authority for the purpose of forcing the state of Hawaii to include Obama’s candidacy on its ballot, the Democratic National Committee, headed by Nancy Pelosi, committed election fraud and violated the Constitutional right of the people of the state of Hawaii to an election process in which supreme power is held by the citizens and their entitlement to vote for Constitutionally eligible candidates.
14. The Official Certification of Nomination sent to Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer by the DNC was not sent to any other state’s CEO.
15. Based on the authority given them by the Constitution, some states’ election laws do not require an explicit statement indicating a candidate’s legal qualifications to serve under the provisions of the Constitution, like Hawaii, but rather a general statement citing documentation that the candidate is qualified under federal law to serve as President and Vice President.
16. The DNC sent a different OCON to every other state omitting the reference to Constitutional eligibility.
17. Cronin sent written notification to Obama stating that Obama was found legally qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution based on the DNC’s OCON.
18. The Democratic Party of Hawaii and the Democratic National Committee do not agree with one another about the Constitutional qualifications of Barack Obama.
19. Cronin’s notifications have never been revealed to the public.
20. If the notification from Cronin to Obama stated that Obama was found not qualified to be on the Hawaiian ballot, Obama had five business days after the finding to send a written request for a hearing to contest the finding and reconcile his lack of eligibility with the DPH.
21. Upon receiving a request for a hearing from Obama, Cronin was obligated to schedule the hearing within 10 business days of receiving the request.
22. Hearings to contest candidate eligibility findings are conducted under Administrative Procedures governed by HRS AR 91, 92 and 3-170.
23. AR 91-9 allows a petitioner for a hearing to request reasonable scheduling accommodations in order to attend the hearing based on travel, personal matters and/or financial issues.
24. The hearing would have been conducted around mid to late October, 2008.
25. Barack Obama’s grandmother was reported to have become gravely ill in early to mid October, 2008.
26. Barack Obama was in Hawaii in mid October, 2008. The American public was told that his only business there was to visit with his ill grandmother.
27. Obama went to Hawaii, suddenly, without his wife and children, even though Dunham’s condition was reported to have been expectedly declining for several weeks, during which, at any time, Obama could have otherwise scheduled a planned visit. The exclusion of Dunham’s great-grandchildren and Michelle Obama during this visit is odd. Madelyn Dunham did not pass away for two more weeks after Obama’s visit having never been visited by Obama’s family in her final months.
27. HRS 11-113 (b) states: If there is no national party or the national and state parties…do not agree on the presidential and vice presidential candidates, the chief election officer may determine which candidates’ names shall be placed on the ballot or may leave the candidates’ names off the ballot completely.
28. Barack Obama was included on the 2008 Hawaiian Presidential ballot.
“If I recall he later clarified he WAS NOT at the actual birth but he says he say Barack Jr., Barack Sr. and Stanley Ann when Barack Jr. was young.”
Yes, he said they were at social functions together with him, BUT Stanley Ann and the baby moved to Seattle for school ~19 Aug 61 and did NOT return to HI until AFTER Obama Sr had left for Harvard (he never moved back to HI). That makes Abercrombie a liar since those three could have NOT been at social functions attended by Abercrombie when Obama was a young child!
JC
I heard on the radio driving into town the very same thing...that a group wants both Clarence Thomas and Scalia investigated for getting together and discussing some cases before it went before the entire supreme court, or something like that. Should be more on the TV news tonight. My first thot’ was they are trying to replace both of them with Obummer cronies.
Is there documentation of a letter denying Obama placement on the ballot?
Obama’s real name is Damian Thorn.
And it is worthwhile to reminder the readers here.
As you have captured. The daily pen blog story and the apparent facts as they can be verified through numerous sources - Cronin was the final decision maker that allowed Obama onto the ballot.
From Dailypen....
“HRS 11-113(b) states:
b) A “national party” as used in this section shall mean a party established and admitted to the ballot in at least one state other than Hawaii or one which is determined by the chief election officer to be making a bona fide effort to become a national party. If there is no national party or the national and state parties or factions in either the national or state party do not agree on the presidential and vice presidential candidates, the chief election officer may determine which candidates’ names shall be placed on the ballot or may leave the candidates’ names off the ballot completely.”
So Cronin’s action was to accept madam Speaker’s NATIONAL party constitutional eligibility certification since the STATE party did not and has not ever certified Obama as Constitutionally eligible.
Lets state that in a very straight forward way:
The Democratic Party in Hawaii (HDP) did not; has not; and never has since certified Obama as Constitutionally eligible.
Abercrombie and the Democrats of the home state refuse and still refuse to this day to stand behind ‘their’ guy.
They did not change their minds at some point. Cronin accepted the edibility confirmation from the National party - i.e. from Pelosi.
HDP, to this very day, has never, never declared Obama Constitutionally eligible and as required in the normal course of elections.
HDP, to this very day, has never, never declared Obama Constitutionally eligible and as required in the normal course of elections.
And isn’t it interesting that the newly elected Lt. Gov. was the head of the DPH for the 2008 elections. Can you say “got questions” next time this guy has to give a presser?
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/
“Former DPH Chair, Brian Schatz, now serves as
Hawaii’s Lt. Governor under Gov. Neil Abercrombie (2010).
As DPH Chair, Schatz authored the state’s Democrat
Party OCON for Obama without including legally required
language stating that Obama was constitutionally
eligible to serve as president. Schatz won the Lt. Gov.
seat by a wide margin after two years of remaining
silent about his OCON controversy.”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4F7FHZurD40/TTemmNEcN8I/AAAAAAAAAFE/QShBTYY-z5k/s400/OCON.jpg
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Absolutely fascinating reading!! Let’s get this out to those who can demand a proper investigation - in public!
I’m a firm believer in “Sunshine Laws”, the Florida version, NOT the Hawaii version!
JC
Keep this little tidbit in mind.
There is a doctor who got involved with Lolo’s immigration snafu as Ann’s Doctor. Toru Nishigaya
He wasn’t just any Dr. He had been Assistant Chief of Staff at one of the Maternity Hospitals. Information is hard for me to find but I found the reference in the 50s. I don’t know how long he was there.
Fast forward to the 60’s. Now he is trying to keep Lolo in the US. Lolo got someone in Immigration to pull strings for him which greatly upset the East West Center.
East West wanted him back in Indonesia. So did Indonesia.
East West even made a notation about Lolo working an end run around them. they were not happy.
Now, let’s not forget the head of the East West center was a former spook who just happened to leave Indonesia as it was about to hit the fan.
http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb01?Na=jones+howard
Here is what a former CIA bloke said about East West Center
Frank Scotton:
“It was a cover for a training program in which Southeast Asians were brought to Hawaii and trained to go back to Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos to create agent nets.” After passing the Foreign Service exam, Scotton was persuaded to join the USIS, which “dealt with people,” unlike the State Department, which “observed from a distance.”
Keep this in mind and then read Lolo’s FOIA file.
He had a paid off car from a loan from his Uncle. But he was sending payments in a non traceable form via courier because any other way was not safe according to him.
When asked the name of Ann’s Dr. -he didn’t know it. When asked the date of his marriage - he didn’t know it.
In fact, Ann used different dates for the marriage in her passport applications.
these people were involved with the Spooks.
there is no telling where Obama was born or who is father is. There may be no birth certificate because the Spooks didn’t want there to be one -for whatever reason.
This whole Abercrombie story is weird. I think he just might be a loose cannon that has now been backed into a corner.
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