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Hawaii governor ... Obama's birth 'exists in archives' but can't produce the vital document
Daily Mail ^ | 01/20/2011 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 01/20/2011 6:58:33 AM PST by FreeAtlanta

Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there. Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961....frpa ... 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,' he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; birthers; crimeinc; evasion; fraud; ineligibility; investigate; naturalborncitizen; no2ndterm; obama; unconstitutional
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To: FreeAtlanta

I could do better, but don’t have time right now.

We Don’t Need Another Zero (Blunderdome)
(With apologies to Tina Turner)

Out of the ruins
Out from the oppression
Can’t make the same mistake this time
We are the children
The last true patriots
We are the ones the Founders left behind
And I wonder when the liberals will admit
That Obama sucks, and it’s time for them to quit

We don’t need another Zero
We just need to send him back home
All we want is life beyond
Blunderdome

Looking for something
We can rely on
There’s gotta be better leader out there
Hope and Change
That was so stupid
All the libtards are so clueless
We all wonder when they will ever change
“We are stupid” is their middle name.

All the children say
We just need to send him back home
All we want is life beyond
Blunderdome

So how do we defeat our ignorant foes,
Hanging chads and ACORN’s woes
Will our votes shine like a light
And put a stop to socialist night
We won’t retreat, we just reload

We just need to send him back home
All the way back to Kenya
All we want is life beyond
Blunderdome


21 posted on 01/20/2011 7:24:56 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
'It's a matter of principle with me,' the 72-year-old said. 'I knew his mum and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.'

Maybe this is why this guy decided to leave Congress and run for governor. Part of the cover up.

22 posted on 01/20/2011 7:27:55 AM PST by kabar
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To: FreeAtlanta

I will say, although I’m not a birther, this is getting pretty interesting. Especially in light of the SOS saying during the campaign she saw it and had it locked in a safe.


23 posted on 01/20/2011 7:30:22 AM PST by mnehring
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To: evets
It was written on a typewriter, using Microsoft Word...

Witnessed by Dan Rather, who said "it was accurate to the nth degree."

24 posted on 01/20/2011 7:35:31 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Best find to date. The quality is consistent with the birthee. I pray that God intercedes and takes our Country back from those that are anything but patriotic citizens.


25 posted on 01/20/2011 7:37:08 AM PST by mcshot (So this is how it feels to be flushed. The "that's impossible" days are upon us.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

boehner says what hawaii says is good enough for him. Now that boehner and the world know that hawaii has NO birth certificate for dunham, per abercommie gov,what does boehner say now? Is a notated born citizen good enough for boehner???
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/speaker-boehner-on-birthers-the-state-of-hawaii-has-said-president-obama-was-born-there-thats-good-enough-for-me/


26 posted on 01/20/2011 7:39:34 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: FreeAtlanta
Haha. Abercrombie thought that once he was in the Gov's seat he would put the issue to rest. Likely he thought Linda Lingle was just playing games.

Now he can't find any docs either. This is so rich.

27 posted on 01/20/2011 7:41:39 AM PST by what's up
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To: FreeAtlanta

What a freaking joke the left and “progressives” have turned out country into.


They are turning us into Venezuela. These left-over 60’s radicals and their global communist ideology. Bring back the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA).

More discussion at the link below on the Hawaii birth records...

The “Linglering” Questions

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/the-linglering-questions/#comment-1284

“Ask yourself this question.

What would have happened if the former Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle (R) had addressed the issue of obama’s long form birth certificate by stating, in no uncertain terms, the following:

“It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the [State] archives, written down,”

But Linda Lingle never said this, because if she had, all hell would have broken loose. It would have fed into the Birther narrative that something is amiss with the long form birth certificate. One reason is because that statement refers to the record being in the State Archives. Not in the Dept. of Health.”


28 posted on 01/20/2011 7:41:57 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: mnehring

I don’t consider myself a Birther, but it does make one wonder why producing the BC couldn’t be a simple matter.

It could be that if indeed he is legit, they don’t want to make it obvious....it could be by keeping it in doubt, it keeps the Birthers around, which they figure is good for Obama politically, because it helps them to portray Obama’s opponents as kooks.

So in essence, they would almost prefer to keep a shadow of doubt around the origin of Obama’s birth.


29 posted on 01/20/2011 7:45:52 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: kabar

Maybe this is why this guy decided to leave Congress and run for governor. Part of the cover up.


So certain was he that Obama was born in Hawai that he even assisted in fund raising for Kapi’olani Hospital until there was a public outcry to prove that Obama was born in that hospital. The fundraising letter was withdrawn. Perhaps Gov. Abercrombie has defrauded donors?

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/the-as-yet-unmentioned-third-close-up-from-wnd/


30 posted on 01/20/2011 7:50:51 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I JUST WON THE $100,000,000.00 Powerball Lottery! But I can’t find my ticket! /s


31 posted on 01/20/2011 7:51:43 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: FreeAtlanta


"As a child of four can plainly see, this envelope has been hermetically sealed. It’s been kept in a #2 mayonnaise jar under Funk and Wagnall's porch since noon today. No one knows the contents of this envelope, not even the governor of Hawaii, but you, in your divine and mystical way, will ascertain the answer having never before seen the question!"
32 posted on 01/20/2011 7:51:54 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Jackson57

I don’t get this. Why is Drudge saying Gov can’t find Obama’s BC and then the headlines wait we found ‘THEM’?


33 posted on 01/20/2011 7:52:05 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: dfwgator

Me thinks Neil got a talking to by Obamas’ thugs.


34 posted on 01/20/2011 7:52:26 AM PST by freebird5850 (Nobody makes being dead more fun than Barack 0bama!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
They sure try hard in the article to keep away from the natural born citizen aspects of the issue with their "a proper U.S. citizen" and "a citizen of the United States" lines.

And if "Most theories have been dismissed by many in public office and the media, and have been found to be misleading or generally untrue..." then which of the ones that are left over haven't been "dismissed or found to be misleading or generally untrue"?
Sadly, there is no clue in the article.

35 posted on 01/20/2011 7:52:45 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: decimon

...”I thought Abercrombie was probably just stirring the political pot with this. Baiting the Birthers. Now he just looks like an idiot”...

Has anyone ever even slightly considered that Abercrombie may be doing the US a favor to expose all this for what it is. It is so ridiculous that he would promise to produce that legal birth certificate and now is backing down in the most ludicrous kind of way. Who could possibly insist that Obama is a US citizen with no proof and while his handlers are stonewalling the ability of our citizens to have the proof so easily obtained for others. Our media is as corrupt as propagandists ever get. How can we trust anything they say? This should have been laid to rest a long time ago if, indeed, real documents exist to prove his citizenship. Citizens are NOT crazy for wanting to know. I, for one, want to know if our government is complicit in breaking the laws we have for eligibility to become POTUS. We need to understand just what kind of path we are on. I do not know why Bill O’Reilly and others gloss over this..It is beyond me..


36 posted on 01/20/2011 7:54:22 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: freebird5850

The Birth Certificate was signed by “Epstein’s Mother.”

/old Welcome Back Kotter reference


37 posted on 01/20/2011 7:54:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: mnehring

I would laugh and laugh if the truth turned out to be that he was born in Honolulu, but his clever mother had the record removed somehow, so that he could be registered as a “foreign student” when he went to college at Occidental and Columbia.

Or she had the record removed when he became Barry Soetoro and lived in Indonesia. Is he still eligible for an Indonesian passport?

I’d like to know what proofs were provided when he got his first US passport. Birth certificates are a primary requirement. I guess those records have been “lost” too.


38 posted on 01/20/2011 7:54:52 AM PST by maica
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To: dfwgator
They're not playing some oh-so-clever game here. The guy in your White House - whoeever he is - doesn't have a legitimate B/C.
39 posted on 01/20/2011 7:55:42 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: dfwgator

So in essence, they would almost prefer to keep a shadow of doubt around the origin of Obama’s birth.


Not possible, the onion is being peeled away. Tears for his true believers will flow like rivers after a storm. Hawaii is at the epicenter of how this fraud got onto the state ballots in 2008. Don’t think that’s going to happen again unless people are willing to keep their eyes shut.

Pen Johannson has some update info at his blogsite

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/

SUMMARY

A comparison of the DNC’s OCON sent to Hawaii with the OCONs sent to every other state reveals a conspiracy to conceal Obama’s ineligibility. Notice the statement added to the Hawaiian document in order to make it compliant with HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B), after it was discovered the DEMOCRAT PARTY OF HAWAII refused to include the legally required language enabling Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer to approve of Obama’s inclusion on the Hawaiian Presidential Ballot.

Hawaii Revised Statute HRS 11-113 (d) and (e), in collaboration with HRS 91, 92 and 3-170 creates a series of deadlines which enabled Obama with an opportunity to appear in Hawaii almost 45 days after the OCON controversy occurred, but on the exact day prior to the final deadline for inclusion on the Hawaiian presidential ballot. This time line was critical in creating the appearance that Obama’s only reason for visiting Hawaii more than three times in 4 months was for personal reasons.

Obama’s time in Hawaii from the afternoon of October 23rd through October 24th remains largely unnaccounted for, except for the brief time he spent with his sick grandmother.
Any conflict among party authorities over candidate eligibility allows the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer the autonomous choice whether or not to include the candidate on the ballot anyway, per HRS 11-113(b), which Cronin did, regardless if that candidate is proven eligible or not. Cronin is not obligated to verify eligibility per HRS 11-113.
This indicates a crime. If the original OCON had contained the amended statement prior to being signed, it would have been left in the body of the statement for ALL the OCONs received by all the states. There is no rational motive for the DNC to omit this statement post-signing because it only reinforces allegations by Obama and the DNC that he is eligible in every state. Which he is not, at least we know, in Hawaii. The fact that it only appears in Hawaii’s OCON indicates a cover-up.
The lack of a “RECEIVED DATE” stamp on the DNC’s Hawaiian OCON, which is present on other state’s version, also prevents an accurate determination of the latest possible date on which Cronin was able to schedule a CONTEST HEARING with Obama after finding Obama uncertified by the DPH. Obama would not have wanted to give the appearance of dealing with an ineligibility issue so close to the election, but he also would not want to allow anyone to know their was a legal problem with his inclusion on the ballot so near the date when Hawaii received the Certifications of Nomination there. Cronin was permitted to record his receipt of the OCON as late as Sept. 5, 2008, 60 days prior to the election, which would have allowed the hearing to begin sometime between October 10, 2008 and October 24, 2008, after exhausting the legally permitted time and personal allowances in the process for scheduling according to HRS 11-113(d) and (e).
Obama cancelled several campaign appointments, just weeks before the election, and suddenly traveled to Hawaii on October 23, 2008 without his family, to visit his ill grandmother.

HRS 92-5-8 affords the Hawaiian Elections Commission the permission to conduct private meetings with candidates when information contained in vital records protected under HRS 338-18 is to be considered.

Madelyn Dunham’s death was reported on November 3rd, 2008. It allegedly occurred at about 3:00 a.m. on November 2nd. No official medical documents, death certificate or coronor’s report of her passing has ever been publicly revealed..

This documented evidence, in coordination with actions by the Democrat party’s authorities and the actions of the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer in coordination with the provisions of Hawaiian election law and Obama’s behavior, in coordination with the events of the campaign, his personal life, and his lack of constitutional eligibility to be president all leave little doubt that the election of Obama occurred extralegally and outside the limits of constitutional legitimacy making him, at least, an unconstitutional president and, at most, an enemy usurper of American sovereignty.

By undermining the provisions of the constitution, Barack Obama has injured the American people by illegally circumventing their right to the protections against domestic threats and ineligible usurpation of their sovereign liberties, which include the right of trust and confidence in those presenting themselves as legitimate candidates for government office.

The fact that very specific, and rational questions remain unanswered about Obama’s past, including the actions by officials working within the government agencies of the State of Hawaii, reveals nothing less than a web of legally knitted deception in order to conceal the obviousness of Barack Obama complete lack of Constitutional standing to be President of the United States. As such, Obama’s entire Presidency has been built on an epic lie of such grand proportions no remedy remains except that which can only come from the common-men and descendants of our vintage American founders.


40 posted on 01/20/2011 7:57:07 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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