Posted on 01/18/2011 7:30:20 PM PST by autumnraine
Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.
Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again yesterday another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.
Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"
In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."
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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.
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Wisconsin? Arizona? PA? VIRGINIA?
Any of those states has a sufficient conservative majority in both the electorate and government to pass such a law...a Constitutionally sound law...with near impunity.
Obama would require AT LEAST 4 of those 5 to win.
I don't think you realize how "far" I'm talking about. This issue has the explosive potential to rip the country asunder and spark open hostilities between average citizens on the left and right. We're talking real bloodshed here, friend.
Don't underestimate how intense the furor on the right is at this man and his cronies over what they've done to our nation. It's my observation that most would be willing to see him leave at the end of his term, standing down to allow some other Democrat to run for the job. If he insists upon retaining the office for another term, he'll do so over some of the most extreme objection ever witnessed in this country.
Stop and consider what just happened in the November midterm elections. If Obama had been on the ballot, he would have lost in a landslide to any Republican contender. Do you think his chances of winning the presidency will be any better two years from now? I don't.
Frankly, I don't know that he's going to have the level of support from his party for the next go-round that he had the first time. He's lost ground in every demographic, except black Democrats, and continues to slide in popularity. He's now got a record, and it's just awful. He can't offer the voters a single good reason to keep him as president.
If they ran him fraudulently in 2008, and they did if the "birth certificate" produced was false, they would again.
The right will not let them get away with that a second time. Especially now that the Tea Parties figure so prominently in Republican politics. We've now got state legislatures that are Tea-publican controlled. All it's going to take is for one of them to pass legislation demanding that all candidates running for the US presidency present proof of NBC status, and he's toast.
sorry it was ‘loose’. I admit I think of him as the loser so often that I typed lose instead. My bad.
Do we know who manages a “Where’s the birth certificate?” ping list? Anyone? Its important! ;-)
Freep Mail “LucyT”
Expect for that number to grow by leaps and bounds, as voters on the right become enlightened by the massive coverage of the subject. If Obama throws his hat in the ring, it'll be open season on the whole question of his eligibility. No one in the country will be able to escape the conversation.
If they do that, they're still the ones who look bad, because that will mean they childishly withheld it all this time, just to finally produce it and say, "Nyah, nyah!" The question then will be, "So why did you withhold it? Why did you put the country through this?" There's simply no good excuse for them to have done that.
Thanks! ;-)
This reminds me of the old joke “The Cat’s on the roof and we can’t get it down”. Sounds like they are trying to prepare us for the fact that no long form BC exists. What a shocker. Maybe because at least 5 states are going to require Barry Soetoro to cough up a long form BC to get on their 2012 presidential ballot.
If the Governor of the state cannot quickly lay his hands on somebody’s birth certificate then it does not exist. Thats why they can never say which hospital Barry was born in because he wasn’t. This is just getting better and better.
The biggest hurdle to producing a bullet-proof fake isn't the technical aspects, but the trail of people and things like the document numbering sequence.
People's names and signatures can be traced, checked, and verified. Even if dead, their life stories would have to precisely match what's reputed in the document in question.
If Hawaii numbered their long form birth certificates, they'd have to completely scrub the entire recorded existence of some unfortunate individual to steal their sequential number for Obama's birth certificate.
I seem to remember reading on one of the bc threads that Hawaii did number their long form birth certificates at the time of Obama's birth, but I'm not 100% sure.
And it doesn't stop at the birth certificate. There are many, many other documents that the birth and life of a person generates, and these would have to be opened for inspection, as well. Every single one of them would have to stand up to public scrutiny and verification. There couldn't be a single mis-match, or loose end. Everything would have to interlock seamlessly and flow naturally in perfect progression, to convince a skeptical nation.
I don't believe that Obama & Co. are capable of pulling this off.
“page 345, Dreams from My Father”
Very interesting. Yet another hole for Team Obama to figure out how to plug.
are you there nully?
While you're waiting to get in touch with the bc ping list, you want to share what's so "important" on this thread?
He better back off, people on the wrong side of this administration end up in the ground due to unusual circumstances.
the trail of people and things like the document numbering sequence.
People's names and signatures can be traced, checked, and verified. Even if dead, their life stories would have to precisely match what's reputed in the document in question.
If Hawaii numbered their long form birth certificates, they'd have to completely scrub the entire recorded existence of some unfortunate individual to steal their sequential number for Obama's birth certificate.
And for your other question...the Nordyke twins were born at the same time as 0bambi and have released their long forms on the internet...thus establishing the date/serial number sequence.
Susan Nordyke was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
Gretchen Nordyke followed at 2:17 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
Google Nordyke Twins, and the first hit goes to WND website and the actual long form BC's
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Your post coincided with the report - in one of his books? - about ‘bummer coming across his BC while a teen living with his grandparents in HA.
He was shocked at something about it and there was a row.
Isn't this a strange group of photos to put on the cover of his book “Dreams of My Father”?
No photo of O Sr. No photo of his ‘mother’ except as a child with his grandfather - and a photo of young ‘bummer in the lap of a black lady. Who is she and why is she so important as to be on the cover.
Is it a subconscious placing of Mother on one side, father on the other and ‘bummer in the middle. A secret hidden in plain sight?
Maybe there IS a BC in the records - just one that he never wants seen - and if the Gov found it, he realizes he can't reveal it because it wasn't what he ever expected?
But its not about them (the dems); its about him. If we are talking about someone truly immersed in his own delusions of grandeur, there is no boundary of reason past which he will not go to keep the dream of his alternate universe alive. And to the extent he has an inner circle of enablers who have power to act on his behalf, to that extent he may have some temporary success acting against party interest to remain on his imaginary throne. If it truly is psychosis, and your scenario unfolds as described, it will be a very dangerous moment for all of us.
PLacemark.
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