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Gunmen posing as police break into Fayette home(WV)
wvgazette.com ^ | 15 January, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 01/17/2011 8:22:00 AM PST by marktwain

MONTGOMERY HEIGHTS, W.Va. -- Two armed men posing as police officers broke into a Fayette County home early Saturday, and then sprayed the people inside with pepper spray, bound their hands and feet with duct tape, and tried to rob them, the Fayette sheriff said.

The suspects identified themselves as state police when they broke into the residence in the Montgomery Heights area around midnight Saturday, according to a news release from Fayette Sheriff Steve Kessler. They wore dark masks and clothing with what looked like some type of police insignia on their jackets.

The suspects were armed with a handgun and a shotgun, Kessler said. After identifying themselves as police, they told the victims they were there to search the residence for drugs and money. They demanded the combination to a safe in the home, but none of the victims were able to give the combination.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; fakepolice; gun; impersonation; wv
Attacks by people impersonating police are becoming more common.
1 posted on 01/17/2011 8:22:02 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Chances are they really were Cops just looking for a few extra bucks, Not sure about this area, but where I used to live in California, the Vast Majority of Cops are as corrupt as humanly possible. I have not had that experience since moving to AZ.


2 posted on 01/17/2011 8:26:08 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: marktwain

Maybe they were real cops.
It is getting hard to tell the difference.


3 posted on 01/17/2011 8:27:10 AM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when WAY OVER half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: PalmettoMason

Silly me, they COULDN’T have been real cops.
No dogs were shot.


4 posted on 01/17/2011 8:29:16 AM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when WAY OVER half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: marktwain

“They wore dark masks and clothing with what looked like some type of police insignia on their jackets.”

My first thought, ban dark masks and jackets with police type insignia.

Wheew, I guess I have been listening to liberals too much!!!


5 posted on 01/17/2011 8:29:41 AM PST by DirtyPigpen
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To: marktwain

5 guys wearing FBI jackets carjacked a woman in Buffalo last week. They made her drive to her house where they robbed her. They weren’t FBI.


6 posted on 01/17/2011 8:32:52 AM PST by BuffaloJack (What rights will the Obama's regime take from us today?)
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To: marktwain
This just sucks.
Bad for police - and bad for the rest of us.
7 posted on 01/17/2011 8:41:45 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Blue Jays
Police should be very, very, very careful if considering NO KNOCK raids.
They should triple-check street addresses and violaters they're seeking.
It is reasonable to expect lawful homeowners might defend their home if people come crashing through front doors for reasons unknown.

8 posted on 01/17/2011 8:46:32 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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It is reasonable to expect lawful homeowners might defend their home if people come crashing through front doors for reasons unknown.

At this address, it's a guarantee.

9 posted on 01/17/2011 8:51:29 AM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when WAY OVER half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: marktwain
Attacks by people impersonating police are becoming more common.

As are incidents of police kicking in the wrong door. Sooner or later there will be an incident of dead officers and dead innocents because of it.

10 posted on 01/17/2011 9:20:37 AM PST by Chuckster (When I was a kid, this was a free country)
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To: marktwain
Attacks by people impersonating police are becoming more common.

That's why you should be prepared and equipped to kill anyone who enters your home through force.

Any legitimate representative of the state should know better than to invade a home while screaming vile threats, obscenities and brandishing a weapon.

11 posted on 01/17/2011 11:15:00 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: marktwain
What would YOU do? Seriously. I value your opinion, and I suspect you have worked through this scenario in your head, as I have tried to do.

With the number of no-knock raids, and police impersonators barging in to homes, a law-abiding gun-owner needs to figure out ahead of time what his reaction to this would be. This type of situation would be almost certain to end badly, no matter what course of action you choose.

1. It is the police, you don't engage them, and they don't kill you, your family, and your dog. (Time to contact your lawyer.)

2. It is the police, you don't engage them, but a cop gets too much adrenaline going, and family members are shot.

3. It is the police, but you didn't know it and you fear for your life, so you do engage them, and people on both sides die.

4. It's impersonators, but you thought they were real cops and you don't engage, your house is looted, you are killed, your wife is raped and murdered.

5. It's impersonators, you do engage, your training is effective, and the world is rid of a few thugs. (Time to buy more ammo.)

What are your thoughts?

12 posted on 01/17/2011 1:07:42 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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I spent half my adult life defending this country against foreign tyranny. I'm not about to let it slide into domestic tyranny. Not on my watch. Anyone bursting into my home, no matter what they shout, or what they wear, is going to get shot. I may get shot in the process, but I spent a lot of years facing that same reality already. As far as I'm concerned, nothing's changed.
13 posted on 01/17/2011 2:19:35 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: deoetdoctrinae
Of course, the response depends on the exact circumstances. The earlier that you become aware of a problem, the more likely you are to survive and prevail.

Hopefully you have a plan and a defensive position within your house, a “safe” room, where you can gather those you must protect. Everyone should be aware of the plan and have practiced it at least once. Barricade and defend there. This can gain time for a 911 call, and it makes the attackers come to you and make themselves vulnerable.

The 911 call is very important. It establishes your credibility with the law. If your problem is a home invasion by criminals, it initiates responding reinforcements to drive them away, and you only need to hold out. If it is a "bad" raid, it opens a channel of communication to stop it. I would warn the invaders (if they have not yet opened fire) that I have called the police and that I am armed. If the attackers persist and they have not identified themselves to my satisfaction, then I would defend my position with all the force at my disposal.

As for equipment, I like the idea of semi-auto carbines with frangible ammunition and high capacity magazines in the safe room, along with bullet resistant vests. Active hearing protection can insure that you survive with functioning ears. A cell phone or two gives you communication with no phone line to cut. If you have other people that you can depend on, have them make the phone call or otherwise aid in the defense.

Keep trying to contact the emergency responders.
Once you make contact, keep them on the line. Remember that every 911 call is recorded, so everything on this call can be used against you in a court of law.

Nothing is perfect. You can do everything right and still be killed. However, if you think about these things before hand, you are more likely to prevail if attacked.

Time is so crucial that anything that buys you time, a dog, a stronger door, a security door, a safe room with a strong door to retreat to, (usually the master bedroom) is a huge advantage. Stairs work to channel an attack into a lethal zone for the attackers.

Security cameras can help id the attackers.

Fortunately, while home invasions are fairly common, mistaken no-knock raids by police are still fairly rare.

As we are winning, I think it wise to be a known activist. It makes it less likely that a raid will be initiated on your home by mistake, and it will be publicly known that you could have been served a warrant peacefully.

Being active politically is also a form of defense. If you become a precinct committeeperson for your precinct (these jobs are pretty thankless, and often go begging) the police are more likely to be careful in their actions involving you. I am not saying that this is good or just. It simply is.

I am a known activist locally. I have taught a number of the local police, local lawyers, and personally know several local judges. I am a precinct committeeman.

I did these things because I thought they needed doing, but I also believe that they help to avoid the “mistaken raid” problem.

14 posted on 01/17/2011 3:00:24 PM PST by marktwain
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To: deoetdoctrinae; All
What would YOU do? With the number of no-knock raids, and police impersonators barging in to homes, a law-abiding gun-owner needs to figure out ahead of time what his reaction to this would be. This type of situation would be almost certain to end badly, no matter what course of action you choose.

Print out articles like this and shoot anyone who breaks through your door. If you are ever prosecuted you can hold up articles like this.
15 posted on 01/17/2011 3:37:43 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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