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To: paulycy

Would it help to get rid of the superfluous forums? The Religion forum, for one, brings nothing but heartache and endless stabs in the face.


14 posted on 01/11/2011 5:42:54 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Being awake is dangerous and silly.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

At this point, I think the GOP club is the one that should go, if any. I mean, who comprises the GOP club these days? Mittens, McAmnesty, Murkyowski...


21 posted on 01/11/2011 5:45:36 AM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: InvisibleChurch; jimrob

Absolute quintuple AMEN to that suggestion.

...but only if it helps the situation.


47 posted on 01/11/2011 6:01:14 AM PST by wita
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To: InvisibleChurch
Ditto that. Why on earth FR HAS to have a Religious Forum beats me. There are really some obsessed people that post there, keeping up their perpetual passions for years on end. I've watched it for 12 years as it has degenerated into hatefulness, name-calling, nastiness and division among freepers....and the warfare never ends.

This is not an indictment of all who post there, of course. However, there are plenty of religious forums on the internet where those who seem to exist only for religious controversy and doctrinal dueling can post their piety or prejudices to their hearts' content.

Leni

80 posted on 01/11/2011 6:23:01 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: InvisibleChurch

I am totally with you on this. As a Latter Day Saint I have to hold my nose and donate due to all of the Mormon Bashing that goes on. If that ended I could pony up some funds. Not sure if it is allowed because Jm Robinson is anti-Mormon or just gets pleasure from others bashing us. Whatever the reason, I just don’t get it. Now all of you anti-Mormons on here can go ahead and let the hate postings begin...


130 posted on 01/11/2011 6:46:20 AM PST by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I would hate to see the Religion Forum go. The chat or bloggers could drop off before that.


354 posted on 01/11/2011 8:10:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: InvisibleChurch

There have been many converts to Catholcism after people saw the real truth about REAL Catholics.

Thanks for your suggestion, though.


358 posted on 01/11/2011 8:11:55 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: InvisibleChurch

It is dysfunctional nonsense to even pretend one can remove a religion forum from a conservative site.

For most of us Christians, our Christianity pervades all our being, all our thinking, all our priorities . . . etc.

And if it doesn’t, then our Christianity is hardly authentic Christianity.

Regardless, without the Religion Forum, religious comments plague the normal political discussion to the point of driving too many away.

This way, it’s workable.


459 posted on 01/11/2011 8:54:50 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: InvisibleChurch

With you on that. If it would help.


695 posted on 01/11/2011 10:32:30 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: InvisibleChurch; Quix; paulycy; jimrob; MinuteGal; TribalPrincess2U

“Would it help to get rid of the superfluous forums? The Religion forum, for one,..”

I am rather amazed at comments like this here, as if religion on a pro-God, pro-American forum is out of place, and have nothing to do with traditional values, freedom, smaller government and a constitutional republic, and as if the kind of religion is irrelevant.* While you do have a lot of flack, this is almost all in reaction to religions that promote and require implicit submission to some assertively infallible mortals, mainly Roman Catholicism and Mormonism, which is both unBiblical and unAmerican (though tolerance of them is not), yet there it is quality debate which is based upon commitment to the truth.

Protestants and Catholics battles are also part of America’s history, including over which version of the Bible was to be read in school. However, today another battle is with those who suppose we can separate faith from moral values, and moral values from fiscal conservationism, and that the latter is the real goal.


*As French historian Alexis de Tocqueville commented,

The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other; and with them this conviction does not spring from that barren traditionary faith which seems to vegetate in the soul rather than to live. - Democracy in America, Volume I Chapter XVII (1835)

And as a Library of Congress exhibit notes,

“The religion of the new American republic was evangelicalism, which, between 1800 and the Civil War, was the “grand absorbing theme” of American religious life. During some years in the first half of the nineteenth century, revivals (through which evangelicalism found expression) occurred so often that religious publications that specialized in tracking them lost count. In 1827, for example, one journal exulted that “revivals, we rejoice to say, are becoming too numerous in our country to admit of being generally mentioned in our Record.” - http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel07.html

During the years between the inaugurations of Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln, historians see “evangelicalism emerging as a kind of national church or national religion.” The leaders and ordinary members of the “evangelical empire” of the nineteenth century were American patriots who subscribed to the views of the Founders that religion was a “necessary spring” for republican government; they believed, as a preacher in 1826 asserted, that there was “an association between Religion and Patriotism.” Converting their fellow citizens to Christianity was, for them, an act that simultaneously saved souls and saved the republic. The American Home Missionary Society assured its supporters in 1826 that “we are doing the work of patriotism no less than Christianity.”

Robert Winthrop (May 12, 1809 – November 16, 1894), and Speaker of the House from 1838 to 1840, and later president of the Massachusetts Bible Society, explained that, “Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled, either by a power within them, or by a power without them; either by the Word of God, or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or the bayonet.”


1,616 posted on 03/13/2011 3:49:46 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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