Posted on 01/10/2011 8:35:17 AM PST by SE Mom
At 2:00 a.m. on Saturday—about eight hours before he allegedly killed six people and wounded 14, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), in Tucson—Jared Lee Loughner phoned an old and close friend with whom he had gone to high school and college. The friend, Bryce Tierney, was up late watching TV, but he didn't answer the call. When he later checked his voice mail, he heard a simple message from Loughner: "Hey man, it's Jared. Me and you had good times. Peace out. Later."
That was it. But later in the day, when Tierney first heard about the Tucson massacre, he had a sickening feeling: "They hadn't released the name, but I said, 'Holy shit, I think it's Jared that did it.'" ...
In messages on MySpace last month, Loughner declared, "I'll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow." He also noted on the website, "I don't feel good: I'm ready to kill a police officer! I can say it." ...
"I think the reason he did it was mainly to just promote chaos. He wanted the media to freak out about this whole thing. He wanted exactly what's happening. He wants all of that."
(Excerpt) Read more at motherjones.com ...
Incredible that we have to go to the ultra-leftist Mother Jones for a completely unbiased article. The MSM is a scourge on us all.
“Some people just want to see the world burn.”
From the article:
“He told me that she opened up the floor for questions and he asked a question. The question was, ‘What is government if words have no meaning?’”
To which Gifford should have answered: “Dude, what does you question mean if words have no meaning?”
The circular illogic of post-modern nihilism is generally missed by those, be they highbrow academics or bat-shit crazies, who buy into this drivel.
You see it is incendiary rhetoric such as this that potentially could cause the weaker minded leftists in the media to actually go purchase guns and start shooting themselves in the feet. /s
What? He murdered SIX people? Do the other four not count because they weren't "federal employees"?
That was my question too - but I’m thinking the murder charges will be filed locally, not by Feds?
This is only for the federal case. Only murders of federal empolyees would be covered (the judge, Giffords and her assistant).
The state of Arizona will bring charges later.
It’s the way our legal system works, and not a reflection of an obvious truth.
No one is “guilty” of a crime until convicted.
I’ve seen anarchists working first hand and they are controlled by the ‘rats. They are turned on and off like the “peace” movement.
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Wasn't he living at home?
Even if not, the situation certainly puts parenting before 18 in question. Not that a parent could do anything about such a deranged minded kid, but it is a question that needs investigating.
Part of me says he has something there. What is government if words have no meaning?
1984 - Gary Hart addressing a college audience: “We will make sure that EVERY young American has access to a world-class education!” Wild cheers from the twenty Democrat Students Club members.
2008 - Sarah Palin in a friendly interview by Sean Hannity: “How will you address unemployment?” “Sean, John McCain and I will develop a plan to ensure job growth for hard-working Americans.”
And more of the same, before, between and since. Politicians seek to say nothing as much as they can, but rather to evoke positive feelings.
And then there are the courts, and the evolving Constitution, which means not what it says, but what the judges think it ought to say.
Loughner probably didn’t mean his question the way I mean the question - he was looking for secret grammar codes and I want specifics and commitment - but still...he strikes a teeny tiny chord in me.
He’s 22, legally an adult. He’s no longer a student, not a dependent even for tax law purposes. Also he’s in the age range when the onset of schizophrenia is most common. If he’d been 16, “where in the world were his parents?” would be a reasonable question.
Where were they? Who knows? Too distant so he went off the rails for lack of guidance, too controlling and too much in his life so he rebelled by getting into drugs the moment he got a chance.
Leave his parents out of it, except to pray for them. This is their tragedy—losing a son to madness—as much as it is a tragedy for those who lost children, siblings, parents, or grandparents to death.
So he really was an angry atheist out to get rid of the people he deemed too stupid to live in the name of improving the gene-pool.
He was upset about the coins having "In God We Trust" on them and upset that they handed him a Bible at the military recruiter.
Anarchy and chaos always eventually achieve the control goals of the left because people are more willing to accept a police state in order to feel safe from the anarchy and chaos.
This is why the left uses anarchists.
I think all of these quotes pale in comparison to the damage done by Obama permitting the DOJ to ignore voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers. Failing to prosecute will embolden others to repeat the outrage. I can't imagine sitting calmly at home while armed thugs confront voters at the polling places. Not here. Not ever.
He's just a stupid uneducated mentally ill incompetent that he spelled it, "conscience" -- something, incidentally, he appears to be lacking.
“I keep wondering WHERE in the world were his parents?”
Even if they called police and reported him as a danger to himself or others, the best they could have gotten was a temporary lockup in a psychiatric facility for three days.
He’s an adult. However, if the parents saw this when he was younger, and did not take steps to get this guy into treatment and on medication with regular trips to a doctor, they are pretty complicit.
Note that he deteriorated when he stopped pot and alcohol. He was self-medicating which should have given his parents a clue.
They may have tried though, who knows until the story comes out.
Speaking of his religion, does anyone know if he attended the same reform synagogue as Rep. Giffords?
Most crimes, fortunately, are dealt with by the several states. There is no Federal statute against murder qua murder, because that is the province of the several states. Under the strict interpretation of the Constitution most of us FReepers favor, there is no place for a general Federal statute against murder, as such a statute cannot be fitted within any of the enumerated powers of the Federal government.
I trust Arizona prosecutors will be filing an indictment for all of the murders very soon.
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