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Apple now calls Christian belief "objectionable and potentially harmful"
The Manhattan Project ^ | 12/23/2010 | no byline

Posted on 01/06/2011 12:41:45 PM PST by Springfield Reformer

Apple is telling us that the apps' content is considered "likely to expose a group to harm" and "to be objectionable and potentially harmful to others." Inasmuch as the Manhattan Declaration simply reaffirms the moral teachings of our Christian faith on the sanctity of human life, marriage and sexual morality, and religious freedom and the rights of conscience, Apple's statement amounts to the charge that our faith is "potentially harmful to others."

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KEYWORDS: apple; christian; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; manhattan; manhattendeclaration; microsoftfanboys; religion; religious; stevejobs
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
SHHH! He doesn’t like it if we speak about him behind his back. He'll tell JimRob!

He TOLD ME THIS!

Such a wonderful ‘dude.’

Happy it made you smile/laugh.

Happy New Year!

41 posted on 01/06/2011 1:38:13 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: FreedomPoster
Because Rush has mentioned, multiple times, that he has asked his sales staff to approach Apple and they have refused to advertise.

That's why.

Do you ever LISTEN to the show?

42 posted on 01/06/2011 1:42:42 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Steve Jobs was adopted... his birth parents were Syrian Muslims. Abdulfattah Jandali was his father.

Only his father was Syrian. His mother was Joanne Schieble.

43 posted on 01/06/2011 1:43:39 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Springfield Reformer

I see someone else has been reading some “logical apologetics”... :)


44 posted on 01/06/2011 1:46:45 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

:)


45 posted on 01/06/2011 1:47:54 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Newton
actually there are several of those

I suspected as much.

But then the Christians are the oppressive majority and associated with right wing Republicans and the Manhattan Declaration would be considered an instrument of the Christian Right.

What always surprises me however is that Muslims are much more intolerant about homosexuality, women’s rights, gay marriage or any number of Left wing hot button issues.

46 posted on 01/06/2011 1:49:29 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: Springfield Reformer
Or are there other, better strategies for a situation like this?

Yes, there are better strategies. I just did a search in the Apple App Store on the word "Bible". Scores of apps popped up. I stopped counting at 90 and there were lots more listed.

I also did a search on the word "Christian". Again lots of apps popped up, including:
The Christian Broadcasting Network, Radio & TV
Christian Creeds
Christian Classics Ethereal Library (lots of apps for this one)
C.S. Lewis quotes and many of his other books
Christian eCards - lots of these
LifeWay Christian Resources
Christian Prayer Journal

There are lots of apps for Christians in the Apple App Store.

One rejected app does not negate a good policy of vetting apps before allowing them in the store. It is unreasonable to become indignant over the rejection of one app when so many Christian resources are available in the App Store.

Apple also rejects pornography apps.

47 posted on 01/06/2011 1:49:43 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: Pontiac
What always surprises me however is that Muslims are much more intolerant about homosexuality, women’s rights, gay marriage or any number of Left wing hot button issues.

You have to remember, lies are the left's native language. They inherited this tendency from their ideological father mentioned in John 8:44.

It's not that they oppose religion, they oppose Christianity.
All those other subjects are just their "cover" issues for opposing Christian beliefs.

48 posted on 01/06/2011 1:53:54 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Strange. I have a free Holy Bible from the app store. And there’s several Holy Bible’s versions available in the iBookstore.

Without knowing the full extent of the app is question, I can’t comment on that specific app, but to say Apple doesn’t allow Christian themed apps or books is not true.


49 posted on 01/06/2011 1:55:56 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Springfield Reformer

My ‘Droid doesn’t give me any BS about that ...

Jus’ sayin’ ...

You’re probably stuck in a contract with AT&T, so boycott threats are probably empty.


50 posted on 01/06/2011 1:58:53 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
I posted this last month An Open Letter to Steve Jobs: Manhattan Declaration App Removed From Apple App Store?
51 posted on 01/06/2011 2:03:10 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must-like men-undergo the fatigue of supporting it)
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To: stripes1776

Well and good, but the Manhattan people have tried twice and been rejected twice, so we are reasonably sure it not just a mistake. Furthermore, they do specifically identify the Manhattan app as “harmful to others” in a sociological sense. So the question is why? How does Apple find harm in a short statement affirming a few basic Christian values, yet finds no harm in an entire Bible that says the same thing, or hundreds of perhaps more devotional Christian apps? I postulate it is the product of two things. First, because the Manhattan app is NOT a whole Bible, it is easy for a casual user to go directly to the “offensive” material. Second, the Manhattan app explicitly encourages transforming Christian moral convictions into direct political action. Unlike the purely devotional religionists all huddled harmlessly around their sacred books, this kind of talk is inherently dangerous to the regime and its cronies. Therefore Apple, being of like mind, finds itself intolerant of such “extremism.” It is so deeply warped. What times we live in ...


52 posted on 01/06/2011 2:22:13 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Well.

I was considering an Apple computer in the future. And have been tolerating a work iPhone. Now reticence now to forget the Mac and push for a Droid.

How can otherwise intelligent people like him piss on 80% of our American population with no apparent concern?


53 posted on 01/06/2011 2:31:03 PM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Leo Farnsworth

I stand corrected.

I am amazed that he pumps up anything, repeatedly, for free.


54 posted on 01/06/2011 3:02:05 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Well and good, but the Manhattan people have tried twice and been rejected twice, so we are reasonably sure it not just a mistake.

As you have said on this thread, "A moral system is incoherent if it is logically unsustainable. If the first premise of morals is 'do no harm,' " Apple has decided, based on their ethical and moral considerations, that the app in question could "do some harm". Therefore, being logically consistent, they have rejected the app.

Unlike the purely devotional religionists all huddled harmlessly around their sacred books, this kind of talk is inherently dangerous to the regime and its cronies.

"The regime of its cronies"? First, Apples is not a regime, it's a computer company. And second, a crony is a long lasting friend. Surely a sound moral system wouldn't be against friendship.

Therefore Apple, being of like mind, finds itself intolerant of such “extremism.” It is so deeply warped. What times we live in ...

This is making a mountain of a mole hill.

55 posted on 01/06/2011 3:06:19 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: Leo Farnsworth; Swordmaker

>>>>You should ping Sword swallower or what-ever-the-hell his FR handle is and get his ‘apple sauce’ reaction.

If you’re going to defame someone, you should at least get their name right.


56 posted on 01/06/2011 3:11:11 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Whoa. Let's be clear. I totally agree that "the Left's" system is drastically incoherent. Completely internally contradictory to the point of insanity. My point was that "Apple's" stance could not be considered inconsistent (I was equating that with incoherence), as they have been "of the left" from the get-go. So for them to adopt a leftist stance is, for them, consistent. Izzat somewhat clearer??

On the incoherence of the left, we agree completely.

57 posted on 01/06/2011 3:18:20 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: stripes1776
This is making a mountain of a mole hill.

Not if you're the Manhattan Project trying to get your message out.

So it really doesn't bother you that Apple thinks Christian morality is harmful?

And what are their "ethical and moral considerations," as you call them? What harm are they supposedly preventing? Is a "moral system" obsessed with a delusional fear of traditional, rational sexual mores really logical? Define logical. I'm curious.

As for "regime," you misunderstand me. I never said Apple was a regime. I am referring to the broader leftist movement currently attempting to smother American freedom. Apple isn't the regime; it's just one of the cronies. Cronyism is not so much friendship as a kind of calculated collusion aimed at coercing the peasants to mind their place and do what they're told. Not the sort of thing I would have thought a person with your moniker would approve of. Who knew?

58 posted on 01/06/2011 3:40:19 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Keith in Iowa; Swordmaker
Sorry if I could not remember the ‘bots name.

Sword swallower seems to have struck a popular mark though, judging from the responses to my post, both public and private. Doesn't that just gall you? People here having enjoyment that I wrote Sword swallower rather than swordmaker.

BTY, I did advise the OP to ping him/it/whatever - I just could not remember him/it/whatever’s name.

Thank you so very much for reminding me what Mr. applesauce's FR handle is.

I am most grateful for your diligence.

My true opinion of swordmaker (if that really is him/it/whatever’s name) is that him/it/whatever is a ‘bot or a ‘droid and replies in the positive any time ‘Apple’ is mentioned in text. It is this reason that many applesauce fans are at odds with the record company Apple.

Think about it: someone writes a derogatory review of a Beatle album and the applesauce 'droid/'bots reply:' you obviously do not understand the O.S. which is superior to mankind itself!'

Just my humble opinion.

You are a real sport for helping, Keith in Iowa.

A real sport.

59 posted on 01/06/2011 3:43:57 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: FreedomPoster
Cool.

Sorry if I was a bit tough on you. Thanks for the response.

Happy New Year!

60 posted on 01/06/2011 3:45:45 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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