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To: stripes1776

Well and good, but the Manhattan people have tried twice and been rejected twice, so we are reasonably sure it not just a mistake. Furthermore, they do specifically identify the Manhattan app as “harmful to others” in a sociological sense. So the question is why? How does Apple find harm in a short statement affirming a few basic Christian values, yet finds no harm in an entire Bible that says the same thing, or hundreds of perhaps more devotional Christian apps? I postulate it is the product of two things. First, because the Manhattan app is NOT a whole Bible, it is easy for a casual user to go directly to the “offensive” material. Second, the Manhattan app explicitly encourages transforming Christian moral convictions into direct political action. Unlike the purely devotional religionists all huddled harmlessly around their sacred books, this kind of talk is inherently dangerous to the regime and its cronies. Therefore Apple, being of like mind, finds itself intolerant of such “extremism.” It is so deeply warped. What times we live in ...


52 posted on 01/06/2011 2:22:13 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Well and good, but the Manhattan people have tried twice and been rejected twice, so we are reasonably sure it not just a mistake.

As you have said on this thread, "A moral system is incoherent if it is logically unsustainable. If the first premise of morals is 'do no harm,' " Apple has decided, based on their ethical and moral considerations, that the app in question could "do some harm". Therefore, being logically consistent, they have rejected the app.

Unlike the purely devotional religionists all huddled harmlessly around their sacred books, this kind of talk is inherently dangerous to the regime and its cronies.

"The regime of its cronies"? First, Apples is not a regime, it's a computer company. And second, a crony is a long lasting friend. Surely a sound moral system wouldn't be against friendship.

Therefore Apple, being of like mind, finds itself intolerant of such “extremism.” It is so deeply warped. What times we live in ...

This is making a mountain of a mole hill.

55 posted on 01/06/2011 3:06:19 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: Springfield Reformer
How does Apple find harm in a short statement affirming a few basic Christian values, yet finds no harm in an entire Bible that says the same thing, or hundreds of perhaps more devotional Christian apps?

On my iPhone and iPad are four Bible study apps and I think six translations.

I'm not familiar with the app in question, but to intimate that Apple blocks Christian material from its App Store is plain false.

There are indeed Qu'ran apps, and Torah apps, and I've seen other religions represented too. But I am unaware of (for example) an app which spotlights all the kill-the-Jews stuff from the Qu'ran for an anti-Semitic audience. I'd trust Apple not to approve such a thing. I'd disagree with drawing a parallel to the Manhattan Declaration (which I have read) but would imagine some uninformed folks might.
103 posted on 01/07/2011 4:53:10 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Springfield Reformer
How does Apple find harm in a short statement affirming a few basic Christian values, yet finds no harm in an entire Bible that says the same thing, or hundreds of perhaps more devotional Christian apps?

On my iPhone and iPad are four Bible study apps and I think six translations.

I'm not familiar with the app in question, but to intimate that Apple blocks Christian material from its App Store is plain false.

There are indeed Qu'ran apps, and Torah apps, and I've seen other religions represented too. But I am unaware of (for example) an app which spotlights all the kill-the-Jews stuff from the Qu'ran for an anti-Semitic audience. I'd trust Apple not to approve such a thing. I'd disagree with drawing a parallel to the Manhattan Declaration (which I have read) but would imagine some uninformed folks might.
104 posted on 01/07/2011 5:04:12 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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