Posted on 12/31/2010 5:41:55 AM PST by FS11
President Obama Hawaii's new governor says he'll straighten it all out. Who's he kidding?
Mr. Abercrombie is wasting his time. The truth is no match for the birthers' zealotry, the depth of their twisted contempt for the president, their ceaseless efforts over the past two years to delegitimize him because down deep they believe Mr. Obama or anyone of his racial makeup does not deserve to be president of the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...
Is that fear that I smell?
This is why there can be no compromise with people like this. They are intractably ignorant, vindictive, unwilling to speak civilly with anyone who doesn't share ALL their points of view right down the line.
They can only be defeated and tossed aside.
Unfortunately, BO simply has no good options in the WHO’s YOUR DADDY? Game.
BHO 1 disqualifies BO2 as NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
Frank Marshall Davis? was a communist criminal PERVERT Poet who had Gay sex with BO.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18poems.html
Malcolm X? was an anti-American muslim TERRORIST
Grandad Stanley Dunham? How sick is that? Your Dad is your Grandad who raped his daughter, your mother?
>> Why do they NEVER mention that it doesn’t matter where he was born as he’s NOT NBC. <<
Because I believe in something called “being realistic.” There’s not a snowball’s chance that any federal appeals court or the SCOTUS would ever apply Vattel’s definition of NBC to the issue in controversy. Those who think otherwise are tilting at windmills — a practice in which I’m unwilling to join.
Besides, Vattel was a foreigner, who worte in French. Since when do FReepers want foreign law to be the deciding factor in a matter of U. S. constitutional interpretation?
It’s almost time for the auto response to kick in.
FEAR AND PANIC surrounding the White House and the DNC. Just listen to Jeff Kuhner’s report on the The Steve Malzberg Show...
Steve Malzberg Interviews Jeff Kuhner - If The Truth Got Out About Obama There Would Be A Civil War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWuM0tzrOYs&feature=player_embedded
Then why are you on this thread? You will change no ones mind on the issue so your only purpose would be to aggravate?
Besides, Vattel was a foreigner, who worte in French. Since when do FReepers want foreign law to be the deciding factor in a matter of U. S. constitutional interpretation?
Because it's been proven that the Founders did indeed use Vattels, WRITTEN IN FRENCH, when they wrote the Constitution. Not been keeping up on the research? Go throw rocks somewhere else. I don't debate proven points.
So the Hartford Courant is asserting racism exists when only they are advancing a racism argument. Seems very racist of them.
That is, since no one else has even mentioned racism, for them to bring it up strongly suggests that it is *they* who are racist, or who want to make race an issue.
Where’s the barf alert? “. . .twisted contempt for the President”??? Please! How about the other side’s twisted contempt for the Constitution?
Quite frankly, I’ll be happy to acknowledge that Obama was born in Hawaii once it’s documented. But I find the veil of secrecy over not only his birth certificate, but all sorts of documents we’ve seen from other recent Presidents—college transcripts, school records, health records and the like—very disturbing.
And, it would be very good for the rule of law and the restoration of Constitutional order for SCOTUS to rule on whether “natural born citizen” in the context of the requirements for POTUS is to be understood in light of Vattel or in light of Blackstone. If the former, bounce the usurper out of office, if the latter, well Abercrombie better be right about the location on the birth certificate, or the same course of action follows. The precedents you cite in other contexts suggest application of stare decisis would yield a ruling for Vattel’s definition.
The foreign national parent problem has been and will continue to be spun away and/or ignored. Maybe it might have worked before the election but as valid as the point is it's not going anywhere.
If one is able to put their political affiliation aside and look dispassionately at the facts as we know them, it’s obvious that obama does not meet the Constitutional requirements for the office.
Simply being ineligible to hold office and being removed may be the least of Obama’s problems. He may have committed treason.
If you have not watched the interview of Stephen Pidgeon (he and Leo Donofrio are representing the Chrysler dealers who were disenfranchised by Obama), take some time to do so because it deals with the issue of treason and high crimes alledgedly committed by Obama himself, the Daily Kos, Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi, and even Chris Matthews and Bill OReilly and other people in the media covering for Obama.
The interview really begins around the 11:00 mark of the first part (but you may want to watch the beginning because they discuss the Pergamos Alter and how it relates to tyrants).
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/interview-with-attorney-stephen-pidgeon.html
So the birthers may be the least of Obamas and his cohorts worries, because high crimes alledgedly have been committed to get him into office and are punishable by law.
I stand corrected : http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=144909. It never passed. As I understand it, Arizona may have done so.
However, with the 2010 elections I belioeve we will see some states pass such laws. Id love to see Ohio with a new GOP Governor and GOP majorities in the senate and house pass such a law.
The great State of Georgia is well on its way...
Georgia lawmaker says when Congress wont act, states have a duty to step up
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=144909
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2009_10/sum/hb1516.htm
And we have a newly elected Governor who has already called Obama out on this...
And, it would be very good for the rule of law and the restoration of Constitutional order for SCOTUS to rule on whether natural born citizen in the context of the requirements for POTUS is to be understood in light of Vattel or in light of Blackstone. If the former, bounce the usurper out of office, if the latter, well Abercrombie better be right about the location on the birth certificate, or the same course of action follows. The precedents you cite in other contexts suggest application of stare decisis would yield a ruling for Vattels definition.
69 posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 9:17:38 AM by The_Reader_David
There is no doubt that there are at least 5 votes against BO on the Natural Born Citizen issue on SCOTUS presently. I could even envision Justice Ginsberg voting against BO, but she is in poor health, so a case needs to be brought before SCOTUS immediately on a Motion for Original Jurisdiction.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html
No one has an idea of the level of evil in this person’s mind. Having sat in the pews of United Trinity Church and listening to the hate being directed at “White” America and Jews, you can only imagine he is all about redressing grievances of specific groups despite the pain and suffering it would unleash on society as a whole.
Why would someone knowing that he is not eligible to hold office may an attempt to do so. To intentionally put us into a Constitutional crisis and be the genesis for another Civil War.
Here’s some fuel for the fire:
Whos Your Daddy? Whos Your Mama?
http://obambi.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/who%E2%80%99s-your-daddy-who%E2%80%99s-your-mama/
Nope, you got it backwards.
The left wants to use this issue to create total chaos and unite the base into a violent mob.
One right after another is going to start making the claim that if you aren’t white, the “TEABAGGERS” don’t think you are a citizen.
They will use this and the defeat of the Dream Act as “PROOF” the “TEABAGGERS” only want a nation of white people.
There’s your glue to unite the blacks and “ILLEGALS” which they haven’t been able to do before.
This is Hillary at her finest.
down deep they believe Mr. Obama or anyone of his racial makeup does not deserve to be president of the United States.
Does this mean that birthers believe that anyone with 50% or more of Caucasian make up do not deserve to be president of the United States?
“Liberals running scared. They want it to go away because they know it is true.”
Bingo. The Kenyan lives in fear of exposure.
I am a birther.
Yep, you got it. This is Hillary Clinton all the way.
This is designed to unite the blacks and the “ILLEGALS” which they haven’t been able to do before.
This whole thing with Abercrombie - IMHO - is a ploy to seemingly legitimize obama for the upcoming elections in 2012.
As Glenn Beck says, you have to think outside the box. You have to think like revolutionaries do. In one of Beck’s Shows he shows how George Soros has successfully used 5 steps to overthrow governments (has successfully done it to 4 countries). He has already achieved 4 of the steps thus far; what is left to be done is an “election crisis”. How nice that our popularly elected president is not eligible to hold office. Now try to remove him, kind of like removing a band-aid from a pussy scab.
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