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According the Juan Williams, Sarah Palin is not smart enough to be President - Can't be on the same stage as Obama. Oh well, guess she knows more about what Obama will do before even the elite press.
1 posted on 12/26/2010 12:38:25 PM PST by bobsunshine
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So hey media, whose the idiot now..turns out Sarah was 100 percent RIGHT on the money with these death panels. Juan Williams can suck it. Obama can’t speak without a teleprompter, has a zillion goons around him telling him what to do, we NEVER saw his college transcripts showing us all what a genius he is, but according to Juan he is of high intellect. Give me a break Juan


2 posted on 12/26/2010 12:43:33 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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ineluctable

3 posted on 12/26/2010 12:44:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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Earl Blumenauer (D) Oregon...“we won’t be shouting it from the rooftops because we aren’t out of the woods yet”

These damn cockroaches know they have to hide their true intentions from the electorate. They work best under cover of darkness. And Blumenauer says so.

4 posted on 12/26/2010 12:44:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: bobsunshine
Obama issued the regulation to Start Jan 1, 2011

And get this from the NY Times article:

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After learning of the administration’s decision, Mr. Blumenauer’s office celebrated “a quiet victory,” but urged supporters not to crow about it.

“While we are very happy with the result, we won’t be shouting it from the rooftops because we aren’t out of the woods yet,” Mr. Blumenauer’s office said in an e-mail in early November to people working with him on the issue. “This regulation could be modified or reversed, especially if Republican leaders try to use this small provision to perpetuate the ‘death panel’ myth.”

Moreover, the e-mail said: “We would ask that you not broadcast this accomplishment out to any of your lists, even if they are ‘supporters’ — e-mails can too easily be forwarded.”

The e-mail continued: “Thus far, it seems that no press or blogs have discovered it, but we will be keeping a close watch and may be calling on you if we need a rapid, targeted response. The longer this goes unnoticed, the better our chances of keeping it.”

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Here is the link to the NY Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/us/politics/26death.html?_r=3&hpw=&pagewanted=all

5 posted on 12/26/2010 12:45:43 PM PST by bobsunshine
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Whoa there

If it’s confirmed by the lib lady, it’s gotta be true


6 posted on 12/26/2010 12:46:14 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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“the regulation could yet be “modified or reversed.””

I for one certainly expect it to be abolished, period.


7 posted on 12/26/2010 12:47:22 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: bobsunshine

Was there ever any doubt?


9 posted on 12/26/2010 12:49:41 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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The elderly, and the very, very sick of all ages, will be victims of the death panels. Obamacare must be repealed.


10 posted on 12/26/2010 12:51:02 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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The democrats are trying to bring back the “death panels”.

They are just trying to do it under a different name.

That is how democrats operate, especially when they cannot tell the truth about what they are after.

Democrats want to take all choice away from patients and even doctors; they want nameless faceless government bureaucrats to make life and death decisions for all.


13 posted on 12/26/2010 12:56:53 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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Our biggest advocacy needs to be to do away with, have repealed, or whatever it takes...to get removed from all legislation the authorization for agency bureaucrats to create, write, and enforce regulation.

This is all insanity. We’ve finally gotten to the point that Congress is meaningless.

If law can be brought to bear on a people who has rejected it in the legislation, then the regime is treasonous and needs to be overthrown.


14 posted on 12/26/2010 12:57:10 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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Ping.


15 posted on 12/26/2010 12:57:42 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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Under Obamacare, if you can’t afford a doctor, go to an airport - you’ll get a free x-ray and a pat down, and if you mention Al Queda, you get a colonoscopy.


16 posted on 12/26/2010 12:57:54 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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Yep, according to Juanita Williams, Sarah is SOOOO dumb, she probably couldn’t talk to a room full of 6th graders without a Teleprompter, remember all the words to the Declaration of Indepencence, remember to put her hand over her heart for the Pledge to the Flag, pronounce “corps” as “corpse,” and...

Oh, wait. That was Obozo!

ahem...

never mind!


17 posted on 12/26/2010 1:03:23 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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Bravo to Sarah, but sad we live in a country where the obvious has become controversial and difficult to explain. It’s obvious that rationing is required in Obamacare and especially is aimed at denying care to the elderly.


20 posted on 12/26/2010 1:13:26 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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Thanks very much, upchuck and Clyde5445. Sarah is proved right [again]. *Obama's Death Panels*

NYT article =Obama Returns to End-of-Life Plan That Caused Stir (Medicare Death panels start Jan. 1)

Sarah Palin's Ping List!

22 posted on 12/26/2010 1:17:34 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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23 posted on 12/26/2010 1:21:32 PM PST by Bassfire (Remember the Alamo!)
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The lie is how they deny it. They say there is nothing called “death panels,” so Sarah is either stupid or aqn extremist. The left acts like shady lawyers- they know what they are pushing is NOT supported by ordinary Joes and Janes, so they use strawmen and half truths to deny and mock.


24 posted on 12/26/2010 1:28:58 PM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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Huffington post refers to Palin's "death panel" claim as the "Whopper of the year."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ye9kwzc

It now looks like Sarah was right after all.

25 posted on 12/26/2010 1:29:51 PM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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The one drug ObamaCare will always fund.

26 posted on 12/26/2010 1:30:52 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: bobsunshine; ProtectOurFreedom; onyx; Sun; Ev Reeman

This 2,000 page bill will generate 5 to 10 times as many pages of regulations. Many will be program specific and many will be over arching. I last posted the below to an article on the editorial page of our paper and received the comments that I was a moron and should face a terrble retribution before God for all those babies I killed in Vietnam. Therefore, there must be some value in what I presented.

The U.K. Telegraph and others awarded Sarah Palin a prize for telling the greatest political lie of 2009. In fact her following statement discloses one of many deceits within health care legislation. Next follows an explanation of how this outcome will be realized.

“The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.”

Her anxiety arises from seeing hordes of new bureaucracies provide the framework for boundless regulatory masterpieces eroding human freedoms. The stimulus bill created the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology and the Health Information Technology Research Centers. These bureaucracies duplicated private sector information bases, utilizing computer technology for coordination and flow of recommendations and policies for medical knowledge.
Now passage of HR 3962 and Senate legislation adds over 100 new boards, commissions and programs. For example a new Medicare Commission, exempt from judicial review, will unilaterally write rules about utilization and pricing of medical devices and drugs often needed by surgeons. Many regulatory bodies will be overarching in their abilities to select and direct medical subjects concerning Tri-Care, employer group policies, Veteran’s Administration, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

The HHS Secretary will use these bureaucracies to reflect Congressional intent; not the will of the people. The regulations will utilize disquieting legislative provisions, selected legislator speeches, and selected expert testimony. Regulations will incorporate ideas politicians consider too sensitive for public debate. Medical professionals will join other private sector professionals such as education financial aid directors and CPA’s I know, who often serve as federal agents instead of client advocates.

Princeton bioethics professor Peter Singer recently presented in the New York Times Congressional intent without equivocation. “Rationing health care means getting value for the billions spent by setting limits on which treatments should be paid for from the public purse….There’s no doubt that it’s tough – politically, emotionally, and ethically - to make a decision that means that someone will die sooner than they would have if the decision had gone the other way….The task of health care bureaucrats is then to get the best value for resources they have been allocated….If a teenager can be expected to live another 70 years, saving that life gains 70 years, whereas a person of 85 can be expected to live another 5 years, then saving the 85-year-old will gain of only 5 life-years. That suggests saving one teenager is equivalent to saving 14 85-year-olds”.

Peter Singer’s scientific approach reminds me of the Geneva Conventions, which attempt rational, moral threads to grasp during wars’ barbarity. For my Navy experience pulverizing a major enemy base in Vietnam, I especially liked the clear and obvious reading of Articles 28 and 29 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The VC were responsible for any civilian deaths. Those civilians qualified as Protected Persons within the enemy’s physical control, and could not be used to render certain points and areas immune from military operations.

The passages furnished the basis for rules of engagement we followed when attacking a legitimate military target. Distance provided me the blessing of avoiding clean up after-wards for the mess I helped create. However, I am certain our task force was an effective “death panel”. We permanently shattered that VC main force unit, forcing it to surrender the region to South Vietnamese control.

Government bureaucrats will apply similar detached patterns of analysis to those which enabled our ship to apply over 400 rounds of naval artillery to a VC base camp. Politicians will use the implementation process to disconnect totally from consequences of their actions. The resulting health care regulations will place everyone on pathways to federally defined, cost effective, approved treatments. Seniors and the disabled will hold second class citizenship, because popular philosophies, as discussed above, find these people deficient in societal contributions compared to active workers and youth.

When Sarah Palin speaks of an “America I know and love” she understands that federal administrative laws and regulations are the soft underbelly of our Constitution. Under English common law, which serves as the basis for our Constitution, a person is innocent and not subject to the penalties of the law until proved guilty. Under administrative law like Roman civil law a person is subject to its penalties and restrictions until they discover a way to legally extricate themselves.

Pursuit of happiness means spiritual prosperity within the hazards and uncertainties of personal freedoms. Once again politicians offered enchanting material security, while obscuring subservience to rules vastly increasing their power. This legislation attacks our Bill of Rights by confiscating speech and religious freedoms, personal life without access to courts and trial, and Ninth Amendment personal freedoms guaranteed, but not enumerated by our Constitution.


27 posted on 12/26/2010 1:32:18 PM PST by Retain Mike
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