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"RINO" Label Used Too Flippantly By Conservatives
Townhall.com ^ | December 24, 2010 | Matt Towery

Posted on 12/24/2010 7:29:13 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

“Since those days, I’ve occasionally branched out and suggested some policy or position that doesn’t reflexively mirror some bedrock conservative outlook.”

Unfortunately for you, that’s precisely how we judge you.


41 posted on 12/24/2010 8:00:35 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: muawiyah
but once you’re in the pool you’ll find sex counts more than you can believe.

eeewwwwwww! They're having sex in the pool? I bet they drink the water too.

42 posted on 12/24/2010 8:04:50 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What I want to know is this.

If the President is elected by the Senate (electoral college), then why do was have a ‘popular’ vote?


43 posted on 12/24/2010 8:07:47 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Kaslin
They might be startled to learn that the constitutional framers sagaciously designed America's lawmaking process to include a U. S. Senate that was elected not by direct vote by the people, but by state legislatures.

Nearly every one who's really politically active and aware knows about this. I would bet that most FReepers know about it.

This is actually a pretty weak, poorly composed article. He starts off saying that conservatives use the label RINO way too often. He veers off into defending the START treaty, then wanders back into defending Republicans who had the courage to be Republican when "Republican wasn't cool, then defends Johnny Isakson again. What was his point, again, anyway? Defending START? Defending RINO's? Defending Republicans who voted for START? Bueller? Bueller?

44 posted on 12/24/2010 8:08:30 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: Kaslin

The author is a RINO. Voting for that START treaty was nothing more than a surrender of national security.

The problem is that Conservative voters and citizens are not changing...its the GOP politicians and the GOP talkers who are changing....moving to the left


45 posted on 12/24/2010 8:08:53 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: Kaslin

Mr. Matt Towery,
We regret to inform you that some wuffied asshat wrote an article on Townhall.com and put your name on it.

I am sure the real Matt Towery is not such a whiny girlyman

Sincerely,
Popman


46 posted on 12/24/2010 8:09:15 AM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: muawiyah

Actually, here in the South people started turning Republican because the Democommies became social liberals. The country clubbers are a lot like the NC GOP for the last century- just go along, get along, and take permanent minority status, unless the Democrats become so corrupt that it becomes impossible to leave them in power- which is finally what happened in Nov. In my book, such people might as well be Democommies.


47 posted on 12/24/2010 8:16:58 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Hardastarboard
What was his point, again, anyway? Defending START? Defending RINO's? Defending Republicans who voted for START? Bueller? Bueller?

Egg nog? Egg nog?

48 posted on 12/24/2010 8:19:06 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Kaslin

I prefer Mark Steyn’s brilliant name for them: DIABLO

Democrats In All But Label Only

Either you believe in freedom and support the Constitution, or you don’t. Expansion of government, increased regulations and higher taxes all result in less freedom.

Choose your side wisely. I choose freedom.


49 posted on 12/24/2010 8:19:22 AM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Kaslin
He's a certified RINO, alright.

The most damaging amendments were the 13th and the 19th.

NO cheers, unfortunately.

50 posted on 12/24/2010 8:20:20 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Kaslin

Would Progressive suffice? =.=


51 posted on 12/24/2010 8:28:06 AM PST by cranked
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To: Kaslin
Some people seem unaware that the terms RINO and DINO are not recent, but have been around practically forever in politics. I first heard the term RINO -- which, then, much more practically, was prounced REE-NO, with DEE-NO as its Rat counterpoint in the mid- or late 1980's (which was when I first started paying attention).

Some seem to treat the term like a new toy or like a naughty name that's really fun to say over and over.

A RINO (or a DINO, for that matter) was someone who fairly consistently voted and advocated for the primary (i.e. defining) positions of the other party. Today the term gets thrown around any time someone in your own party disagrees with you.

I say address substantive differences in policy/tactical views in substantive terms.

52 posted on 12/24/2010 8:28:08 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: Kaslin
Flippant RINO bashing.. ugh!... labeling..???

This bashing of RINO exposers does not take into account mini/maxi and Mega RINOS..
There are degrees of RINOism..
You also have you're stealth RINOs.. and deep cover RINOs..
Not to speak of Independants(MurCOWski) claming to be RINOs..

I watching to see if Boehner places Murcowski on any committees.. (as a republican)..
Shes NO LONGER a republican BUT an Independant..

If he does he NEEDS a primary challenger in the next primary..

53 posted on 12/24/2010 8:30:16 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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Actions Speak Louder Thank Words: Senate Republican Turncoats
Senate Republican Voting Yea in Lame Duck Session
Bill S.510 FDA Food DADT Repeal START Treaty HR3082 Budget
Alexander (R-TN) Yea Yea Yea
Barrasso (R-WY) Yea
Bennett (R-UT) Yea Yea
Brown (R-MA) Yea Yea Yea Yea
Bunning (R-KY) Yea
Burr (R-NC) Yea Yea
Cochran (R-MS) Yea Yea
Collins (R-ME) Yea Yea Yea Yea
Corker (R-TN) Yea Yea
Ensign (R-NV) Yea Yea
Enzi (R-WY) Yea Yea
Grassley (R-IA) Yea Yea
Gregg (R-NH) Yea Yea
Hutchison (R-TX) Yea
Isakson (R-GA) Yea
Johanns (R-NE) Yea Yea Yea
Kirk (R-IL) Yea Yea Yea
Kyl (R-AZ) Yea
LeMieux (R-FL) Yea
Lugar (R-IN) Yea Yea Yea
McConnell (R-KY) Yea
Murkowski (R-AK) Yea Yea Yea Yea
Roberts (R-KS) Yea
Sessions (R-AL) Yea
Shelby (R-AL) Yea
Snowe (R-ME) Yea Yea Yea Yea
Thune (R-SD) Yea
Vitter (R-LA) Yea
Voinovich (R-OH) Yea Yea Yea Yea
Not Voting
Bond (R-MO) Not voting Not voting Not voting
Brownback (R-KS) Not voting Not voting Not voting
Bunning (R-KY) Not voting Not voting
Gregg (R-NH) Not voting Not voting
Hatch (R-UT) Not voting

54 posted on 12/24/2010 8:36:54 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: muawiyah

I agree lets just call them card carrying morons.

Maybe our Townhall buddy can give us a label to pin on Iaskson for co-sponsoring and threatening to vote for S.510 the Food Safety Act. The only reason he and our other potted plant Chambliss backed off was the deafening roar of disapproval from the good citizens of GA.

What label should be given to Isakson for standing up on the floor of the Senate and speaking eloquently in favor of the Service Act. A bill that basically gives Obama his Civilian National Defense Force and adds 250,000 new employees to the govt payroll and 250,000 new foot soldiers to the Democratic party.

No I think we got it right the first time. Johnny Isakson is a RHINO. Plain and simple.


55 posted on 12/24/2010 8:43:08 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin
Examples of RINOs are Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine, Dick Lugar of Indiana, Voinovich of Ohio, and Scott Brown of Massachussets. Many Freepers call other people RINOs, just because they don't don't like or disagree with.

True.

I also think there's another issue when we start looking at state reps. Simply, they are supposed to be representative of the views of their state. I don't like it, but apparently Snowe and Collins, at least for the time being, hold views that the people of Maine agree with -- at least enough to keep getting them reelected. Liberal states elect liberal-tending reps. That's the way it is.

Sure, we can (and should) try to grow the conservative movement in the more liberal states. But rather than focus on "getting rid of" Republican Senators that the people of that state seem to actually want to represent them, why not realize that, at least for now, that is the best available "R" we are going to get out of that state and instead focus on growing our majority by targeting other states.

One can wail all he wants that the people of Maine or Massachusetts or wherever have elected a liberal Republican, but if the people of that state are generally liberal, this is the way it should work.

The larger the majority we can cobble together, the less influence the more liberal Republicans will have. And the greater the likelihood that we will be able to put conservative Republicans into positions of leadership in the Congress.

But wailing about the fact that a generally liberal state elects generally more liberal representatives seems pretty unhelpful to me.

56 posted on 12/24/2010 8:43:44 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: Kaslin

As long as the 100 precenters are throwing a fit, and complaining that politicians are acting like...well politicians, not toeing the FR line......

In Praise of Mitch McConnell
Legal Insurrection
December 22, 2010
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/12/22/in-praise-of-mitch-mcconnell/

This is not the post you probably were expecting from me given my harsh — and as always prescient — criticism of Republicans in the lame duck session. I was screaming “capitulation!” before screaming “capitulation!” was fashionable.

Notwithstanding the lame duck session, give Mitch McConnell some credit for the war which has been fought the past two years.

(Snip)

Against overwhelming odds in which the defeat of the Obama agenda was not possible, the best that could be hoped for was to get Obama and the Democrats stuck in the mud, to have them advance to places they did not want to be, and to set up the stage for the electoral counterattack.

I’m not a military historian or tactician, but I do understand the concept of prepping the battlefield. That is as true in politics as in war.

For his role in prepping the 2010 political battlefield, for getting Obama and Democrats stuck in the mud of their own creating, and for giving us the possibility of significant gains in the coming years, Mitch McConnell deserves our praise.

______________________________________________

My man Mitch!!!!


57 posted on 12/24/2010 8:44:21 AM PST by Valin
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To: hosepipe
>>>>>I watching to see if Boehner places Murcowski on any committees..

Boehner is in the House. "Murcowski" is in the Senate.

58 posted on 12/24/2010 8:46:59 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Kaslin
I'd love for some of the conservatives who revere the Federalist Papers to actually pick up a copy of that body of work and read it. They might be startled to learn that the constitutional framers sagaciously designed America's lawmaking process to include a U. S. Senate that was elected not by direct vote by the people, but by state legislatures.

This is how a Beltway RiNO tells all the Tea Party mouth-breathers and Flyover-country knuckledraggers to ESAD.

Nice trope, dope. See you in a couple of years.

59 posted on 12/24/2010 8:47:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: hosepipe
I watching to see if Boehner places Murcowski on any committees.. (as a republican)...

Boehner will be Speaker of the House and Murkowski is in the Senate so it will be up to "Mike" McConnell to place her.

60 posted on 12/24/2010 8:50:52 AM PST by JohnG45
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