Posted on 12/22/2010 2:50:38 PM PST by blam
Ancient Caucasian Remains in America
The Ainu in North America
Archeological anomalies that suggest Amerindians were not the first Americans
Kennewick Man
Spirit Cave Mummy
Wizards Beach Man
Gordon Creek Woman
Penon Woman
The "Mummy People" of Alaska
A handful of skeletal remains have come to light in recent years which suggests that the Modern Amerindians, descended primarily from Mongolian stock were not truly the first Americans. The Ainu race of Japan appears the be the last remaining vestiges of a race that once roamed the Pacific Areas of Asia and the Americas, theiry skeletal remains may possibly be related to this race but they also bear strikingly Caucasian features.
Kennewick Man
(Excerpt) Read more at nephiliman.com ...
Does your information disagree with the old theory that the Caucasians once lived near the Caucasus mountains, and that they migrated out from there to the Indian Sub-continent, and Europe and Arabia, etc.?
HUH? That does not compute.
No, we don't. What always surprises me most in these kinds of conversations, is that so many people assume that today's knowledge of ancient history (and prehistory) is the final word on the matter, and that everything that can be known, is known.
Actually, our knowledge of prehistory is continually growing. Old theories are slowly amended, or even proven completely wrong by the growing base of artifacts.
The article I linked points out many cases of these puzzling artifacts, which don't fit the established prehistorical narrative, and overturn many preconceived notions of what came before.
The biggest obstacle to understanding our planet's prehistory is academia itself, which tends to deny the validity of any archaeological find that doesn't fit the establishment line. I've read stories about archaeologists whose careers were ruined because they dared to publicize finds that conflicted or debunked the accepted narrative of the academic ruling class.
There's a good book on the subject called, Forbidden Archaeology by Michael Cremo.
Didn’t they pull up an ancient astrolabe from the med from before when the technology should have been possible?
I think you're referring to the Antikythera mechanism, a geared device manufactured ca. 100 BCE, believed to be a device for predicting the motion of the sun, moon and planets.
That device has been reverse-engineered, and rebuilt. When the gears are put into motion, it does appear to predict the movements of the solar system. The consensus of the scientific community is that it is indeed a real device from antiquity, but it's still not known whether it was a commonplace instrument, or if the retrieved artifact is one of a kind.
I once saw a program where some scientists analyzed that theory, and couldn't find any scientific basis to prove that a meteorite could do that.
At the same time, they were unwilling to go out on a limb and endorse the ancient nuke theory, so there you have it. The glass is there, but no one knows for sure how it got there.
Wow! A race of Patrick Stewarts lived here before we did!
The three stages were: (1) Royal Family and Daimyo families arrive from Asia via Korea. They'd conquered Korea quickly, and then conquered the Ya-Yoi region of Japan just as fast. That's where the Chinese rice culture was located. They were illiterate and divided into a number of "silk kingdoms" although there were "other silk kingdoms" ruled by different ethnic groups at different periods of time. Part of the conquest appears to have involved absorbing the old nobles into the new nobles. This is shown in many of the Family Mon arising at that time.
(2) After conquering the Chinese part of the country they moved on to the North and Central areas and began chopping away at the Emeshi ~ who were technologically their equal. This took HUNDREDS OF YEARS. Again, the local nobility were absorbed into the Daimyo.
(3) Once they had EVERYBODY IN HAND in the South, The West, and the North, the Royal families and Daimyo began the final advance on the remaining independent Emeshi. This time there was no hand of friendship. Rather, they were absorbed whole into the Japanese body politic as the people we know as THE SAMURAI. The Shogun who put that deal together then used them to begin the final conquest of the entirity of Japan by a single authority that culminated in the Tokugawa Shogunate a few hundred years later.
Among other things he did with his new Samurai forces was to place them in Fukuoka where they could be quickly dispatched to the highly populated regions to the North and South.
BTW, if you take any of the more popular Japanese historic "time lines" you'll find they differ among themselves on important events earlier than Tokugawa. They also differ from my timeline since they are "political" ~ and make every effort to avoid having the Emperor's family come from Korea ~ even if only as conquerors just passing through.
You can't imagine how important this has been. It even screws up their understanding of the Ise Temple, the place of Shinto (from Siberia, not Japan), and the arrival of Buddhism (on horseback installed by the sword by the conquerors of the mid 500s).
If you think the Chinese were upset by finding tartan wearing redheads in Chinese graves, the Japanese were exceedingly upset about the study on molar types!
I demand reparations!
My ancestor’s mastadon farm was robbed of profits by greedy, stone-aged, industrialist Amerindians!
Maybe he messed up the space-time continuum, and that’s how we ended up with Obama. :p
I am digging this thread!
It was no doubt "the final authority" ~ and very important.
In Greece as in China the leadeship elites could command resources sufficient to produce First Item stuff. They just couldn't produce these things in mass quantities.
Yawn. You commonly couldn’t enter good college without knowing Hebrew and ancient Greek in the 1800s America. Non formal educated, but devout Americans used to commonly be able to read Hebrew, especially pastors from solid ( and not so solid) theological institutes
While it is an ancient language, Hebrew was nearly dead until Israel became a state in 1948. It was more common for educated people here in the US to study Latin and some Greek than Hebrew.
If those writings are chipped in rock, they can be dated rather easily.
Why would the ancient Greeks need a complicated computing device to tell them when they were due to hold the Olympic games again?
Surely, the calendars of the day were sufficient for that purpose.
Those white folks in those refugia had arrived in Europe a scant 35,000 years earlier ~ just before a massive glacial buildup. They got trapped for many thousands of years and developed differences.
The Caucasian theory concerns events that are far more recent, and explains ONLY the distribution of the Indo-European languages. It does not succeed well in explaining the distribution of white folks.
A current theory has the Indo-European languages arising out of a group that earlier included the Afro-Semitic languages.
You'd have to go back another 5,000 years, minimum, to figure out what Ice Age group that group came from.
This device solved the problem of inadequate calendars and scribal error in transcribing them.
No doubt if the Greeks had been able to pursue their technological development they'd made the leap from writing on primitive wax boards and sheep skin to the modern CRT/keyboard system without ever having discovered moveable type.
Remember, paper and printing is NOT OBVIOUS.
Civilizations older than the ancient Greeks had the ability to track days, months, and years with precision, and they didn't have paper, either.
The ancient Greeks had a phenomenal level of skill with the science of mathematics, as evidenced by their many monuments and public buildings (the Parthenon, for example). I highly doubt that the simple technology of tracking the movement of the sun, moon, and stars was outside their grasp.
Sinodonty and Sundadonty are two patterns, identified by anthropologist Christy Turner, for East Asia, within the "Mongoloid dental complex"[1]. The latter is regarded as having a more generalised, Australoid morphology and having a longer ancestry than its offspring, Sinodonty.
Sino and Sunda refer to China and Sundaland, while 'dont' refers to teeth.
He found the Sundadont pattern in the Jōmon of Japan, Taiwanese aborigines, Filipinos, Indonesians, Thais, Borneans, Laotians, and Malaysians, and the Sinodont pattern in the inhabitants of China, Mongolia, eastern Siberia, Native Americans, and the Yayoi.
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(African and European teeth are defined as undifferentated(sp?))
Turner also upset the Native Americans when he found human protein in an Anazasi coprolite proving that they cannibalized.
(Man Corn: Cannibalism and Violence in the Prehistoric American Southwest )
Like that'd be the original anchor!
This was a PORTABLE BULLETIN BOARD that addressed all the issues regarding setting the date for the Olympics.
Excellent.
Thank you muawiyah. As usual in FReepland, people know some serious stuff. Well said.
Come now...the ancient Greeks were technologically advanced enough to have a medium for writing that didn’t require them to haul around two ton stone calendars. Clay tablets were in use thousands of years before the Greeks.
The “Olympic calendar” hypothesis isn’t holding up to simple logic.
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