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Pope: Church must reflect on what's wrong with Christianity that allowed sex abuse [AP Lie]
AP via KTVB.com ^ | Dec 20, 9:33 PM EST | NICOLE WINFIELD

Posted on 12/21/2010 6:22:04 AM PST by the invisib1e hand

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI told Vatican officials Monday that they must reflect on the church's culpability in its child sex-abuse scandal, but he also blamed a secular society in which he said the mistreatment of children was frighteningly common.

In his traditional, end-of-the-year speech to Vatican cardinals and bishops, Benedict said revelations of abuse in 2010 reached "an unimaginable dimension" that required the church to accept the "humiliation" as a call for renewal.

"We must ask ourselves what was wrong in our proclamation, in our whole way of living the Christian life, to allow such a thing to happen," the pope said.

Benedict also said, however, that the scandal must be seen in a broader social context, in which child pornography is seemingly considered normal by society and drug use and sexual tourism are on the rise.

"The psychological destruction of children, in which human persons are reduced to articles of merchandise, is a terrifying sign of the times," Benedict said.

He said that as recently as as the 1970s, pedophilia wasn't considered an absolute evil but rather part of a spectrum of behaviors that people refused to judge in the name of tolerance and relativism.

As an avalanche of cases of pedophile priests came to light, church officials frequently defended their previous practice of putting abusers in therapy, not jail, by saying that was the norm ...

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Yeah, that's it. The pope wants to reflect on "what's wrong with Christianity," cause clearly it was "what's wrong with Christianity" that made those homosexual predator lying bastards dress up as priests and take advantage of little boys.

Nice work AP.

Yuletide-slander alert.

1 posted on 12/21/2010 6:22:07 AM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

Sign of a news services decline, when they go to war against all things Christian.


2 posted on 12/21/2010 6:23:57 AM PST by Biggirl (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! GO UCONN!!!!:)=^..^=)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’m sure the Pope said 100 other things too, but we won’t be told about those.


3 posted on 12/21/2010 6:27:35 AM PST by PGR88
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yep, the Pope didn’t say anything of the sort, he talked about the Church’s culpability, not “whats wrong with Christianity.” If the author cannot see the difference he is a complete moron. Then again he probably does but just wanted a chance to take a cheap shot a Christianity. Either way though, he is a complete moron.


4 posted on 12/21/2010 6:29:07 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: Biggirl; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Alex Murphy
but he also blamed a secular society in which he said the mistreatment of children was frighteningly common.

Catholics sound like bratty little kids: "Well, they did it!"

Rome just can't take the blame for their sodomizing of little boys.

5 posted on 12/21/2010 6:29:39 AM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The Department of Education and the NEA must ask why so many young women teaching middle school can’t keep their hands off the fifth-graders.


6 posted on 12/21/2010 6:32:34 AM PST by steve8714 (Never again should free men be asked to fight for those without the courage to turn them loose.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Gads, these people can take anything he says and twist it to make it sound just the opposite.

They always do this in the headlines, since that’s the only thing most people read anyway.


7 posted on 12/21/2010 6:34:28 AM PST by livius
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To: the invisib1e hand
Homosexuality is bad in the church but good for the military? You liberals are sick puppies.
8 posted on 12/21/2010 6:35:17 AM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Gamecock

Why don’t you take your spite and put it where the sun don’t shine?

Maybe you should consider reading what he actually said. But that might be too hard for you.


9 posted on 12/21/2010 6:35:43 AM PST by livius
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To: Gamecock

Accepting responsibility is one thing, and that is needed in this horrible situation. But also responsibility needs to also be practiced by the MSM, which sure seems to lack it so very often.


10 posted on 12/21/2010 6:37:01 AM PST by Biggirl (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! GO UCONN!!!!:)=^..^=)
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To: Gamecock

I don’t mind a dissenting comment, but this suggest foaming spittle on your keyboard. This thread is far more about the lying media and criminal sexual perversion than it is about the Church but, like the lying media, you fault the church.


11 posted on 12/21/2010 6:38:07 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy. Again I say, oy.)
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No, you have to read the address to learn what he actually said. He did not needless to say, say anything remotely suggesting what AP insists he did.

And the address is well worth reading.

12 posted on 12/21/2010 6:38:42 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy. Again I say, oy.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The title is misleading.

The Pope is talking about what went wrong in the church not what is wrong with Christianity.

That said, his shifting the blame to secular society is sad. You either take responsibility or you don’t.

The “everybody does it” argument is disgusting.


13 posted on 12/21/2010 6:41:10 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: livius
They always do this in the headlines, since that’s the only thing most people read anyway.

That appears to be the strategy. The gods of journalizm apparently decreed "anything goes" in the big, bold spot above the body of writing to which libel laws actually apply.

I'm pretty sure this is what Marshal McLuhan was getting at.

14 posted on 12/21/2010 6:44:58 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy. Again I say, oy.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“...this is what Marshal McLuhan was getting at...”

Now if we only had Woody Allen to actually bring him out to clear this up...as he did in ANNIE HALL.


15 posted on 12/21/2010 6:50:38 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: TSgt
That said, his shifting the blame to secular society is sad. You either take responsibility or you don’t.

No, you either speak the truth or you don't.

The “everybody does it” argument is disgusting.

Yes, it certainly is. Of course, one would have be either naive, malicious, or willfully ignorant to interpret the pope's remarks in that way.

16 posted on 12/21/2010 6:51:27 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy. Again I say, oy.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Gawd that was classic.


17 posted on 12/21/2010 6:55:25 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy. Again I say, oy.)
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To: livius

Maybe you should pull your head out of the sand and show compassion for the victims of Rome’s crimes.

That same sniveling quoted by the AP is on display almost daily by Catholics here on FR.


18 posted on 12/21/2010 6:58:18 AM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: the invisib1e hand; Salvation

Perhaps you should ask your FRiend Salvation about the interpretation since they usually post a plethora of “everybody does it” links.


19 posted on 12/21/2010 7:01:02 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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