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Seattle Police Release Dashcam Video Of Woodcarver's Shooting
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1292627716 ^

Posted on 12/17/2010 9:51:53 PM PST by Orange1998

A dash cam video from the officer who shot and killed Native American woodcarver John T. Williams was released Friday, showing Williams ambling slowly across the street in a crosswalk before the officer opens fire.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1292627716

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; johntwilliams; police; seattlepd; seattlepolice; seattlewhittler; seattlewoodcarver; standingarmy
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To: mylife

Shot in the BACK four times? For crying out loud, this is cold blooded murder.

It is looking like this cop is gonna do some serious time. At least based on this info coupled with the video.


41 posted on 12/17/2010 10:23:03 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

“BTW, the time from the COMPLETION of the first instruction, “Put the knife down” and the first shot was 4 seconds.”

Well, a man with a knife can travel 21 feet in a second, or something like that, how fast can a man with a knife backpedal? Hey, police academy is HARD!/s


42 posted on 12/17/2010 10:24:15 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Captain7seas

I wonder. Is it against the law to carry a knife and whittle wood? If so we are done for as a country. Very sad situation indeed. Blessings to John’s family. How devastating. The Native American wood carvers make a huge contribution to the culture in Seattle and the Pacific Northwest in general.


43 posted on 12/17/2010 10:24:28 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: I see my hands

I don’t need to see a video to know police have no right to harass someone who is simply walking alone down a street. The mere fact that someone is holding a knife is also not grounds for shooting them.

What possible explanation could you come up with to justify this?


44 posted on 12/17/2010 10:25:21 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Consider me a "Domestic Extremist" for believing, "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!")
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To: RobRoy

Actually he was shot in the side.

Apparently starting to tun around is what set the cop off.


45 posted on 12/17/2010 10:26:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GOP Poet

The short time frame between the orders from the cop followed by the firing of the gun, coupled with the autopsy showing the guy died from four gunshot wounds IN THE BACK do not bode well for the cop.

Citizens have more freedom in using deadly force than cops do, and if this were a citizen, based on the evidence we have, he would probably be locked up for decades.

I also suspect the cop knew who this guy was before he stopped the car.


46 posted on 12/17/2010 10:26:26 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

He shot him in the back? Wow. Just wow. That is all out murder. There will be protests in the streets tomorrow or next week.


47 posted on 12/17/2010 10:27:08 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: mylife
>>Apparently starting to tun around is what set the cop off.<<

What direction?

Was it like this turning around:


48 posted on 12/17/2010 10:28:57 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: IrishCatholic
A photo of the knife recovered by police show the blade is 3-inches -- a knife that is legal to carry in Seattle.

Unbelievable.

49 posted on 12/17/2010 10:28:57 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: RobRoy
I also suspect the cop knew who this guy was before he stopped the car. ">

Yup. Still this was unjustified homicide.

50 posted on 12/17/2010 10:28:59 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RobRoy
Car? Where does the car come in? I missed that part. Was John walking to a car? It sounds like assassination as you describe it doesn't it?
51 posted on 12/17/2010 10:29:27 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: vaudine

>>...and it wasn’t more than 2 minutes between yelling the first time and shooting.<<

Actually, it wasn’t more than 8 seconds.


52 posted on 12/17/2010 10:30:56 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: vaudine

>>The poor guy didn’t even have time to process what was happening. <<

Exactly!

This is the money line in this thread. Well, that, and the FACT that the guy was not even facing the cop when he was shot.


53 posted on 12/17/2010 10:32:16 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Interesting how the cops bring up this guys past.


54 posted on 12/17/2010 10:32:22 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: RobRoy

Years ago, there used to be this fellow who was involved in some specialty martial-arts type training. I should hesitate to call it that, because he was a huge Nordic type. And the “martial arts” was some kind of sword training.

He used to wander around all the time with a REAL broadsword hanging on his back. That sucker must have weighed 25 pounds if it weighed an ounce.

I mean we’re talking about a huge dude, who knew how to use it, and had a weapon that he probably have took down a small Douglas fir in no time if he felt like it.

He got profiled on the local news once or twice.

Never got shot in the back, IIRC.


55 posted on 12/17/2010 10:33:37 PM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: mylife
>>Apparently starting to tun around is what set the cop off.<<

What direction?

Was it like this turning around:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DBPCjfe8G4

56 posted on 12/17/2010 10:33:44 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GregoryFul

Nope. I had to watch the first 40 seconds over and over to be sure my initial reaction was correct. Just finished watching the whole reel and did hear them congratulate him. I don’t blame them. They are brothers and like the one cop said everyone goes home.

I’ll bet on reflection with this tape they sure don’t feel he is a brother anymore.

Guy is a murderer. Bottom line.


57 posted on 12/17/2010 10:33:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: djf

Is that the guy that resulted in a ten hour standoff downtown and when a cop finally DID shoot him people were all over the cop?

I was pissed at the cops that time because they DIDN’T shoot the guy. Heck, how long does it take to get an elephant dart gun?


58 posted on 12/17/2010 10:35:40 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Holy shit!


59 posted on 12/17/2010 10:37:33 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RobRoy

Not only did the cop shoot the victim only SEVEN seconds after yelling, “Hey!” But the police say the shooting took place at a distance of nine to ten feet!

That knife didn’t look anywhere near nine to ten feet in length to me...


60 posted on 12/17/2010 10:38:34 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Consider me a "Domestic Extremist" for believing, "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!")
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