Posted on 12/16/2010 1:17:21 PM PST by Cardhu
Lakin Sentenced
1545: Sentence announced. Dismissal, confinement for 6 months, total forfeitures.
If Col. Lakin is a surgeon, wouldn’t he most likely work for a hospital, or at least with a team of docs contracted to a hospital, rather than being in private practice? The umbrella liability policies would be carried by the institution, I believe.
There are precedent cases on non-citizens being elected and sworn to office by all valid procedures, who upon discovery of their infirmity for office where immediately dismissed.
A little league team who offers the excuses that Obama and his mouthpieces have offered about presenting the facts of a star player not being older than 13 would be scoffed at, and likely banned, any victories and championships forfeit.
As propaganda minister Goebbels advised -- the BIG LIE works because it is so big. The degree to which it works is AWESOME. It exploits a weakness in human nature.
I’d need to look up the specific law, but I believe that one’s medicial license is not affected by a GCM unless the GCM was directly related to charges that would cause a civilian to lose his medical license, such as medical malpractice or the like. And I believe the same applies to the various agencies that grant identification numbers to doctors, such as the DEA, NPI, UPIN, etc.
Take note: I did not say LTC Lakin is a hero, a word that is much too lightly tossed about.
Whether Obama can or cannot “act as President” is the subject of lawsuits that are still pending. We don’t even know if he was ever LAWFULLY declared to be the electoral winner so he could be the President elect, much less fulfill the requirement of qualifying once he was the President elect.
Let me get back to a hypothetical scenario I had brought up before, which I set aside when you and El Sordo went silly on me.
Suppose that Obama says he took the presidential oath of office in his bedroom one day, with one witness who says she tape recorded it. The witness, when asked whether the oath had been lawfully taken, said she can not say. She says she cannot show the video either because Obama says the video makes him look fat.
Would Obama be legally allowed to assume the powers of the presidency based solely on his own statement that he had taken the oath of office correctly, while refusing any independent corroboration of the fact? Why or why not?
It’s a little bit like, “If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, would it still make a sound?”
Thank you.
Of course, you finally got something right. If these pol generals and colonels had stood up earlier, we would not be in this mess. If the courts (who took similar oaths had stood up last year) we would have discovered whether or not the chain of command was intact. Right now, the chain of command has no integrity. Lakin is not the only victim. The oath itself is now a joke.
But Lakin isn't. Therefore he must accept Obama as his CIC.
What a fool; to think by missing movement and disobeying orders he could unseat Obamamao.
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It’s only disobeying orders if they were lawful orders. No reason someone shouldn’t be able to prove they were lawful.
As for what a fool? What about the people that stood up to Hitler? Or the people on the flight that crashed in the field on 9/11? What about the Boston Tea Party folks? What about those that opposed slavery?
If no one stands up, in whatever way they have at their disposal, we have all given up and will be ruled by people like Zero forever.
The man stood up for what he truly believed. Never in the past has anyone had a reason to question that our President was able to issue orders. With the cloud surrounding this idiot’s birth certificate, I wonder also.
He was brave and I believe time will show that he was correct.
I’m having trouble finding it right now, but there is a place in the MCM also where it says that if a defense is the only defense a person has then it is a matter of fact rather than a matter of law. I hope I’m remembering that right. I remember reading it and thinking that it should apply to Lakin. I think it was where it was talking about interlocutory v issues of law v issues of fact.
It is so clear to me that Lind violated Lakin’s due process and Sixth Amendment rights on this. Whether there’s any justice left in this country, or whether rights can be violated at will, is another question. I’m afraid to even try to find out the answer to that one, because I hate being disillusioned.
Yeah, he made his point. I suspect he sought martyrdom.
I wonder what the wife and kids think about Daddy’s idiocy.
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The LTC is a successful doctor in his own right. His wife and kids will be fine and obviously since we’ve not read about his wife divorcing him, they probably support him. And you know with how the MSM hates anyone that rains on the Obama love-fest they WOULD tell us if anything was happening in this man’s private life like a divorce.
Why don’t you just get off this thread if you are so against him and think he’s a fool? I think he’s a hero.
You guys will never learn. I submit to facts, not name-calling.
Neither the Executive, nor the Legislature, nor the Judiciary feel they are bound by the Constitution.
This can be shown in a myriad of ways:
1 - The Bailout bonus Tax/confiscation.
2 - The National Firearms Act.
3 - The Gun Control Act.
4 - The declaration by the Supreme Court that the Constitutional prohibition on ex post facto law applies ONLY to criminal law.
5 - That "no knock" warrants are considered reasonable, EVER.
6 - That the 4th Amendment doesn't apply when you travel (TSA).
7 - That there exist "fishing" warrants, again contrary to the 4th amendment.
8 - The declaration that larceny is A-OK if it has the government/political stamp of approval [Kelo v. New London].
>So the US should go banana republic. You say the military should occupy the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court.
Let me remind you of the first several sentences of the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it,
and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism,
it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
If believing thusly is to endorse a "banana republic" then I think I am in good company.
What part of "pleaded guilty and admitted under oath that his orders were lawful" don't you understand?
Non-sequitur. The person legally authorized to administer the oath of office is the one who would stipulate that it was properly administered. The witness attests to the fact that the oath was administered not that it was properly administered.
Again, it doesn’t matter whether or not Obama can “act as President.” It doesn’t matter whether or not he was lawfully declared to be the winner of the Presidential election. He has entered upon the office. He is the sitting President until the Judiciary and Congress say otherwise.
You’re bogged down in technicalities and can’t see the forest for the trees.
At this point in his life, Lakin has probably had enough of birthers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2643737/posts
Military Jury: Prison, Dismissal for Army ‘Birther’
AOL News ^ | 12-16-10 | AOL
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:49:01 PM by FS11
But Lakin said Wednesday that despite his questions about Obama’s eligibility for office, he was wrong not to follow Army orders. He acknowledged that the Army was the wrong place to raise his concerns about Obama, asked to keep his job and said he was now willing to deploy.
“I don’t want it to end this way,” Lakin told the jury Wednesday under questioning from his lawyer. “I want to continue to serve.”
At the hearing, Lakin told the court that he still believes that questions surround Obama’s presidency but that he should not have refused to meet with his superiors and report to Fort Campbell, Ky., while making his protest.
“I understand that it was my decision, and I made the wrong choice,” he told the judge.”
Oh.
>> I wonder what the wife and kids think about Daddy’s idiocy.
Be careful not to choke on your gratification.
The military should protect and defend the US Constitution.
That can be done through lawsuits. The military leadership could have filed suit against Chief Justice Roberts for administering the oath of office, for instance, and then the federal courts would have had to give the military some answers about the qualifications and Constitutional status of Obama. That’s what SHOULD HAVE been done.
Military leaders also have access to Congressional members and could use that access to try to defend and protect the Constitution. Lakin tried that. The Congressman blew him off because the media might laugh at him about the eligibility issue. Pathetic.
But let’s turn the tables on you, after your gotcha for OWS. What should the military do if a crazy Nazi was elected as Chancellor, er, President, and then filled all the powerful positions with his yes-men and ordered that all the Jews be exterminated?
What should the military do in such a case?
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