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LTC. Terry Lakin Sentenced
CAAFLOG ^ | December 16, 2010 | Christopher Mathews,

Posted on 12/16/2010 1:17:21 PM PST by Cardhu

Lakin Sentenced

1545: Sentence announced. Dismissal, confinement for 6 months, total forfeitures.

CAAFLOG


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; birthers; certifigate; coverup4dnc; coverup4hasan; coverup4obama; coverup4soa; kangaroocourt; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; sentenced
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To: Lurking Libertarian
If you think this somehow now gives him standing to sue in a civilian court to have Obama's eligibility determined, no it doesn't.

Technically it does because Lakin can now show peculiarized harm from Obama's failure to answer the questions regarding his constitutional eligibility.

121 posted on 12/16/2010 2:31:16 PM PST by edge919
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To: Mr Rogers
Got off light.

The sentence is about what I thought it would be - 1 year or less of confinement and dismissal.

122 posted on 12/16/2010 2:31:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: jospehm20
Not as light as Ehren Watada did.

That's the true injustice here.

123 posted on 12/16/2010 2:31:39 PM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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To: Jacquerie
If he was not fully informed, meaning he wasn't sure, meaning he did not get answers to his questions, why did he not deploy?

The answer to that is simple and I already gave it. The command structure is broken from top to bottom. It refuses to apply any accountability to itself.

124 posted on 12/16/2010 2:32:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: edge919

His motives are irrelevant. He disobeyed orders and is guilty. You don’t get to do what you want, even if you’re an O5.


125 posted on 12/16/2010 2:33:05 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: humblegunner

We know you love Obama - this post proves it. Keep it up.


126 posted on 12/16/2010 2:33:11 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Jacquerie
“I wonder what the wife and kids think about Daddy's idiocy”

Idiocy???? A brave man. I praise him. Someone willing to stand up for what he believes in. Truth, Justice, and the American way, or is it the “World” way now? If more people would stand up to this progressive BS and this illegitimate poser & chief, we wouldn't be in the trouble we are in.

127 posted on 12/16/2010 2:33:35 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Cardhu

“...half-dozen or so birthers left in the court room......”

Gee, they really know how to stand by their man. It’s no wonder they never got anywhere.


128 posted on 12/16/2010 2:33:50 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: wintertime

We are still here, right?


129 posted on 12/16/2010 2:33:52 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"The President, rather than fork over an undisputed Birth Certificate, would watch a soldier in his service sent to prison."

One has nothing to do with the other. Lakin wasn't convicted because Obama didn't supply something.

130 posted on 12/16/2010 2:34:52 PM PST by mlo
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To: Jacquerie

You’re not gonna be popular, but you can take solace in being right.


131 posted on 12/16/2010 2:35:02 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Matt Hatter
Seems like an odd thing to fall on your sword over. I don’t get the hero thing, he broke the chain of command. Lose one’s commission and benefits for life for this ‘cause’? Not worth it.

In order to understand this, you would have to have at least a vague idea of what courage is. For me, I'm just glad you and your ilk weren't around in 1776 or you would be talking about your king instead of your president.

For emphasis: The President was NOT born in the United States and is ineligible to be Commander in Chief.

132 posted on 12/16/2010 2:35:31 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (Obama: All turban, no camels.)
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To: Cardhu

How ironic that the same day LTC Lakin is sent to prison, Assange is let free to go home to his mansion....


133 posted on 12/16/2010 2:35:59 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: hoosiermama

I would think they wouldn’t go to SCOTUS again without some additional proof.

There is another option open to Lakin now if he can indeed show injury. Quo Warranto. It’s a fast track to challenge an office holder’s bona fides.

Leo Donofrio had researched this in depth quite a while ago. Cannot locate Leo’s pages on this currently, but the web site below will give you an idea of what it entails. A lot more info is out there via google.

http://www.constitution.org/writ/quo_warranto.htm


134 posted on 12/16/2010 2:36:09 PM PST by joedel
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To: jospehm20
Not as light as Ehren Watada did.

Yes, Obama and Eric Holder let him go since he was the "right type of soldier" to disobey orders. Pffft....

135 posted on 12/16/2010 2:37:00 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: STARWISE

Very generous of the Judge.

God Bless Lt. Lakin.

Does anyone know if there is a fund for the hardship on family?


136 posted on 12/16/2010 2:37:25 PM PST by Vendome
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To: Jacquerie
Did Frantzie write something worth reading?

Not so far...

137 posted on 12/16/2010 2:38:08 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: wintertime
That's right. Impeach, convict and remove, or unelect him in 2012.

Hussein himself does not issue orders, The President of the United States does. If you showed that he was born on Mars, it won't make any difference as to the legality of the orders and duties exercised since he took office. Stomp and stammer, call him what you wish, it won't change a thing.

138 posted on 12/16/2010 2:38:08 PM PST by Jacquerie (LTC Lakin sought a judicial solution to a political problem.)
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To: Frantzie
We know you love Obama

Who is "we"?
You and the gerbil up your butt?

Keep it up

I sure will.
This cat made a poor bet and lost. Birtherism is fine in theory
but in practice it can lead nowhere. Best to focus on voting him out.

Are you opposed to voting him out in favor of some magic solution to make him gone?

Prefer the magic easy way do you?

I love Obama? Yeah, whatever. I love to piss on him. Deal with it.

139 posted on 12/16/2010 2:39:32 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Da Coyote; rxsid; All

****See video of interview with MGen. Vallely yesterday below

For those of you who might have missed it, this is worth
repeating .. keep in mind, this is from liberal, former
military folks, now practicing military law and have the
caaflog site:

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Concern About Obama’s Eligibility Throughout the Chain-of-Command
http://www.obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ^ | 12/16/2010 |

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This snippet posted below was published by Col. Sullivan from the CAAFlog blog(anti-Lakin). I’m very surprised Col. Sullivan was able to keep his ridicule of LTC Lakin down to a minimal in his latest writings on LTC Lakin’s court-martial.

What this blog shows is that there are real concerns about Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be CiC all the way up the chain-of-command. I can’t wait until the official trial transcripts are released.

Snippet via CAAFlog;

LTC Lakin continued that he became the chief of primary care at the Pentagon’s clinic in July 2009. Mr. Puckett then observed that the purpose of the hearing was for the members to determine an appropriate sentence.

He then discussed the origins of LTC Lakin’s offenses.
He testified that he started to have concerns about the Constitution during the primary elections, when he was stationed at Aberdeen Proving Grounds.

He learned that there was controversy as to the natural-born-citizen status of both major political parties’ general election candidates. He said Senator McCain provided everything he could to address his status, including a birth certificate with the doctor’s name and hospital’s name.

He compared that with the lack of scrutiny that Senator Obama received. He had questions about the image of a certificate of live birth on the Internet and relatives stating they were present at his birth in Kenya. He said he had an open mind, but he was skeptical. One candidate went through scrutiny, but there was a lack of information as to the other.

Mr. Puckett pressed, “Why were you so interested in this?”

I think he expected the answer to be because of the oath of office, but LTC Lakin instead gave an answer about reading newspapers. LTC Lakin testified that after the election, he became “extremely concerned.” He said the issue wasn’t about politics or anything else (probably an implicit denial of racism) but the Supreme Law of the Land.

He stated that he “wanted a valid Commander-in-Chief.” He testified that after the election, he was no longer comfortable with being selected for deployment. He was “concerned that the Constitution wasn’t being followed.”

He believes his “oath as an officer is to protect and defend the Constitution.” He believed questions about the President’s eligibility “may weaken the Constitution.” He said he doesn’t know if the President is ineligible and he doesn’t believe that anyone can know.

Neal Puckett asked, “What did you do as a soldier.”

LTC Lakin said his “sought out advice” from his command and from his friends. He contacted legal assistance at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, who said they would research the issue and get back to him, but then they would never return his calls. He talked to his commander and supervisor who said there was an issue and there were questions, but they did not know what to do to answer them.

He then filed an Article 138 complaint. He was asking, “Please, someone in my command, tell me there’s not an issue about illegal orders.” He submitted the Article 138 complaint to his company commander and asked him to forward it. The reply he received back was that his Article 138 complaint was deficient, so the Army didn’t have to answer it.

LTC Lakin then wrote letters to his two Senators and Congressman. One Senator didn’t reply. One said the issue had been raised “and Twittered about and been found not to be an issue.” His Congressman forwarded his letter to Military Affairs.

He continued to “pursue what else I could do.” When he was transferred to the Pentagon, he raised the issue with his clinic’s commander. He “acknowledged concern” but had no guidance as to what to do.

LTC Lakin then submitted another Article 138 complaint, this one routed through General Casey. (BTW, it would later come out that he was referred to Paul Rolf Jensen while he was at Aberdeen Providing Ground, so it seems likely that he was working with Mr. Jensen at the time he filed this Article 138 complaint.)

The response he received back was that General Casey wasn’t in his chain of command, so his Article 138 complaint wouldn’t be addressed.

LTC Lakin then became aware he was “on the short-list for deployment. This greatly concerned me.” He went to Capitol Hill for face-to-face meetings with one Congressman and high-level staffers. He was told that the issue was a concern, but the media ridiculed it, so they let it go.

He was advised to go to Afghanistan and then raise the issue while he was on deployment. He considered this a “worse” option. He said it would be “extremely wrong to raise this in a combat zone.”

Mr. Puckett asked, “You thought if the Commander-in-Chief wasn’t eligible, you thought your deployment order might retroactively be considered an illegal order.” LTC Lakin agreed.

Mr. Puckett asked when LTC Lakin first sought the advice of an attorney. He answered that it was two-and-a-half years ago. He was the leader of an intermediate level school small group.

There were JAGs in the group. He discussed his concerns with the JAGs and asked what he should do. One of the JAGs referred him to Paul Jensen and LTC Lakin called him. He said he “ultimately hired” Mr. Jensen.

He then testified about receiving his deployment orders. At the bottom of the orders, it said he had to bring a copy of his birth certificate. He said, “I thought, there’s an issue here.” That was followed first by laughter from the birthers in the audience, and then by applause, bring another sharp, “Members of the gallery!” from Judge Lind.

He said that in March 2010, he turned to Mr. Jensen for legal advice. When asked about Mr. Jensen’s advice, LTC Lakin replied, “There’s a Kenyan birth certificate.” He said that on Mr. Jensen’s advice, he decided not to deploy.

Mr. Puckett then asked, “Who made the decision to say to your command, ‘I’ll deploy if the President shows he’s eligible?’” LTC Lakin said he did.

Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose fault was it?” LTC Lakin replied, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose responsibility was it?” LTC Lakin answered, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett elicited LTC Lakin’s response that he didn’t think his orders were illegal, but he “still thought there was a constitutional issue.”

He agreed with Mr. Puckett that he used his deployment orders as a vehicle to increase the level of attention that the issue would receive. He confirmed that there were “lots of people urging you to stick to your guns.” In a reply likely to hurt him with the members, he answered: “Yes, including enlisted members and officer members.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2643627/posts?page=2#2

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****Major General Paul Vallely, Dr. Kate, and Dr. Jerome Corsi on the Peter Boyles radio show to discuss LTC Lakin’s court-martial and conviction - 12/16/10 - Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDA5pQu1G40&feature=player_embedded


140 posted on 12/16/2010 2:40:29 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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