Posted on 12/16/2010 1:17:21 PM PST by Cardhu
Lakin Sentenced
1545: Sentence announced. Dismissal, confinement for 6 months, total forfeitures.
Technically it does because Lakin can now show peculiarized harm from Obama's failure to answer the questions regarding his constitutional eligibility.
The sentence is about what I thought it would be - 1 year or less of confinement and dismissal.
That's the true injustice here.
The answer to that is simple and I already gave it. The command structure is broken from top to bottom. It refuses to apply any accountability to itself.
His motives are irrelevant. He disobeyed orders and is guilty. You don’t get to do what you want, even if you’re an O5.
We know you love Obama - this post proves it. Keep it up.
Idiocy???? A brave man. I praise him. Someone willing to stand up for what he believes in. Truth, Justice, and the American way, or is it the “World” way now? If more people would stand up to this progressive BS and this illegitimate poser & chief, we wouldn't be in the trouble we are in.
“...half-dozen or so birthers left in the court room......”
Gee, they really know how to stand by their man. It’s no wonder they never got anywhere.
We are still here, right?
One has nothing to do with the other. Lakin wasn't convicted because Obama didn't supply something.
You’re not gonna be popular, but you can take solace in being right.
In order to understand this, you would have to have at least a vague idea of what courage is. For me, I'm just glad you and your ilk weren't around in 1776 or you would be talking about your king instead of your president.
For emphasis: The President was NOT born in the United States and is ineligible to be Commander in Chief.
How ironic that the same day LTC Lakin is sent to prison, Assange is let free to go home to his mansion....
I would think they wouldn’t go to SCOTUS again without some additional proof.
There is another option open to Lakin now if he can indeed show injury. Quo Warranto. It’s a fast track to challenge an office holder’s bona fides.
Leo Donofrio had researched this in depth quite a while ago. Cannot locate Leo’s pages on this currently, but the web site below will give you an idea of what it entails. A lot more info is out there via google.
http://www.constitution.org/writ/quo_warranto.htm
Yes, Obama and Eric Holder let him go since he was the "right type of soldier" to disobey orders. Pffft....
Very generous of the Judge.
God Bless Lt. Lakin.
Does anyone know if there is a fund for the hardship on family?
Not so far...
Hussein himself does not issue orders, The President of the United States does. If you showed that he was born on Mars, it won't make any difference as to the legality of the orders and duties exercised since he took office. Stomp and stammer, call him what you wish, it won't change a thing.
Who is "we"?
You and the gerbil up your butt?
Keep it up
I sure will.
This cat made a poor bet and lost. Birtherism is fine in theory
but in practice it can lead nowhere. Best to focus on voting him out.
Are you opposed to voting him out in favor of some magic solution to make him gone?
Prefer the magic easy way do you?
I love Obama? Yeah, whatever. I love to piss on him. Deal with it.
****See video of interview with MGen. Vallely yesterday below
For those of you who might have missed it, this is worth
repeating .. keep in mind, this is from liberal, former
military folks, now practicing military law and have the
caaflog site:
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Concern About Obama’s Eligibility Throughout the Chain-of-Command
http://www.obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ^ | 12/16/2010 |
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This snippet posted below was published by Col. Sullivan from the CAAFlog blog(anti-Lakin). I’m very surprised Col. Sullivan was able to keep his ridicule of LTC Lakin down to a minimal in his latest writings on LTC Lakin’s court-martial.
What this blog shows is that there are real concerns about Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be CiC all the way up the chain-of-command. I can’t wait until the official trial transcripts are released.
Snippet via CAAFlog;
LTC Lakin continued that he became the chief of primary care at the Pentagons clinic in July 2009. Mr. Puckett then observed that the purpose of the hearing was for the members to determine an appropriate sentence.
He then discussed the origins of LTC Lakins offenses.
He testified that he started to have concerns about the Constitution during the primary elections, when he was stationed at Aberdeen Proving Grounds.
He learned that there was controversy as to the natural-born-citizen status of both major political parties general election candidates. He said Senator McCain provided everything he could to address his status, including a birth certificate with the doctors name and hospitals name.
He compared that with the lack of scrutiny that Senator Obama received. He had questions about the image of a certificate of live birth on the Internet and relatives stating they were present at his birth in Kenya. He said he had an open mind, but he was skeptical. One candidate went through scrutiny, but there was a lack of information as to the other.
Mr. Puckett pressed, Why were you so interested in this?
I think he expected the answer to be because of the oath of office, but LTC Lakin instead gave an answer about reading newspapers. LTC Lakin testified that after the election, he became extremely concerned. He said the issue wasnt about politics or anything else (probably an implicit denial of racism) but the Supreme Law of the Land.
He stated that he wanted a valid Commander-in-Chief. He testified that after the election, he was no longer comfortable with being selected for deployment. He was concerned that the Constitution wasnt being followed.
He believes his oath as an officer is to protect and defend the Constitution. He believed questions about the Presidents eligibility may weaken the Constitution. He said he doesnt know if the President is ineligible and he doesnt believe that anyone can know.
Neal Puckett asked, What did you do as a soldier.
LTC Lakin said his sought out advice from his command and from his friends. He contacted legal assistance at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, who said they would research the issue and get back to him, but then they would never return his calls. He talked to his commander and supervisor who said there was an issue and there were questions, but they did not know what to do to answer them.
He then filed an Article 138 complaint. He was asking, Please, someone in my command, tell me theres not an issue about illegal orders. He submitted the Article 138 complaint to his company commander and asked him to forward it. The reply he received back was that his Article 138 complaint was deficient, so the Army didnt have to answer it.
LTC Lakin then wrote letters to his two Senators and Congressman. One Senator didnt reply. One said the issue had been raised and Twittered about and been found not to be an issue. His Congressman forwarded his letter to Military Affairs.
He continued to pursue what else I could do. When he was transferred to the Pentagon, he raised the issue with his clinics commander. He acknowledged concern but had no guidance as to what to do.
LTC Lakin then submitted another Article 138 complaint, this one routed through General Casey. (BTW, it would later come out that he was referred to Paul Rolf Jensen while he was at Aberdeen Providing Ground, so it seems likely that he was working with Mr. Jensen at the time he filed this Article 138 complaint.)
The response he received back was that General Casey wasnt in his chain of command, so his Article 138 complaint wouldnt be addressed.
LTC Lakin then became aware he was on the short-list for deployment. This greatly concerned me. He went to Capitol Hill for face-to-face meetings with one Congressman and high-level staffers. He was told that the issue was a concern, but the media ridiculed it, so they let it go.
He was advised to go to Afghanistan and then raise the issue while he was on deployment. He considered this a worse option. He said it would be extremely wrong to raise this in a combat zone.
Mr. Puckett asked, You thought if the Commander-in-Chief wasnt eligible, you thought your deployment order might retroactively be considered an illegal order. LTC Lakin agreed.
Mr. Puckett asked when LTC Lakin first sought the advice of an attorney. He answered that it was two-and-a-half years ago. He was the leader of an intermediate level school small group.
There were JAGs in the group. He discussed his concerns with the JAGs and asked what he should do. One of the JAGs referred him to Paul Jensen and LTC Lakin called him. He said he ultimately hired Mr. Jensen.
He then testified about receiving his deployment orders. At the bottom of the orders, it said he had to bring a copy of his birth certificate. He said, I thought, theres an issue here. That was followed first by laughter from the birthers in the audience, and then by applause, bring another sharp, Members of the gallery! from Judge Lind.
He said that in March 2010, he turned to Mr. Jensen for legal advice. When asked about Mr. Jensens advice, LTC Lakin replied, Theres a Kenyan birth certificate. He said that on Mr. Jensens advice, he decided not to deploy.
Mr. Puckett then asked, Who made the decision to say to your command, Ill deploy if the President shows hes eligible? LTC Lakin said he did.
Mr. Puckett asked, Whose fault was it? LTC Lakin replied, Mine. Mr. Puckett asked, Whose responsibility was it? LTC Lakin answered, Mine. Mr. Puckett elicited LTC Lakins response that he didnt think his orders were illegal, but he still thought there was a constitutional issue.
He agreed with Mr. Puckett that he used his deployment orders as a vehicle to increase the level of attention that the issue would receive. He confirmed that there were lots of people urging you to stick to your guns. In a reply likely to hurt him with the members, he answered: Yes, including enlisted members and officer members.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2643627/posts?page=2#2
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****Major General Paul Vallely, Dr. Kate, and Dr. Jerome Corsi on the Peter Boyles radio show to discuss LTC Lakin’s court-martial and conviction - 12/16/10 - Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDA5pQu1G40&feature=player_embedded
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