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The Tax Bill Passed by the Senate is Unconstitutional
Self | 12/15/2010 | Self

Posted on 12/15/2010 4:00:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants

The Senate has committed a major blunder today. I mean besides the RINOs being stupid enough to go along with the Rats. They have passed a revenue bill that did not originate in the House.

Article 1, Section 7
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

Can it be any plainer? Is anyone planning on challenging the constitutionality of it?


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I hope Mark Levine and the Landmark Legal Foundation are on this like stench on a liberal.
1 posted on 12/15/2010 4:00:56 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There is no such thing as a Constitution...they make it up as they go along. It’s an old game played by ageless tyrants.


2 posted on 12/15/2010 4:02:14 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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Sorry if this violated the Breaking News category. But it needs to get out. Also, could you fix the spelling in Unconstitutional? Thanks


3 posted on 12/15/2010 4:02:57 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Didn’t they pass the bill the House passed last week?


4 posted on 12/15/2010 4:04:22 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So? There is no controlling legal authority at present, which is why gun control is so popular among Federalists, er, I mean Democrats.


5 posted on 12/15/2010 4:05:07 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The Senate has been doing this for over 200 years. They are ALLOWED to amend a bill sent over from the House. They are also allowed to vote on a resolution that's tantamount to what they will accept ~ then when the bill comes over from the House, to the degree it is different they will amend it in whole or in part to match their own.

They then send their bill (with the stuff they'll go along with) back to the House and the House treats it as a new bill. It has to go through the house and back to the Senate, and soon.

From time to time they've used the reconciliation process to deal with this (where there are minor differences). Where there are large differences this business can go on for many iterations before both houses agree, but it has to ORIGINATE IN THE HOUSE, but it can be changed in the Senate.

The House is not required to be IGNANT of what the Senate will agree to.

6 posted on 12/15/2010 4:07:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Consti-who-tion?

What’s that?


7 posted on 12/15/2010 4:07:58 PM PST by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
According to the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 7, clause 1), all bills relating to revenue, generally tax bills, must originate in the House of Representatives, consistent with the Westminster system requiring all money bills to originate in the lower house which is why the appropriations bills that are enacted begin with "H.R.", indicating a bill that originated in the House. The Constitution also states that the "Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills," so in practice, the Senate and House each drafts and considers its own bill. The Senate then "cuts-and-pastes", substituting the language of its bill of a particular appropriations bill for the language of House bill, then agrees to the bill as amended.
8 posted on 12/15/2010 4:09:29 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Your refusing to accept the facts doesn't change the facts. Matt Dillon)
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Sorry if this violated the Breaking News category. But it needs to get out. Also, could you fix the spelling in Unconstitutional? Thanks

Thanks for posting this important news. I had not seen it.

It sure beats jocks posting football scores and bicycle races in France in a news forum.

9 posted on 12/15/2010 4:10:06 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: exit82

No.


10 posted on 12/15/2010 4:10:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The constitution? How 20th century of you.


11 posted on 12/15/2010 4:14:47 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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Just goes to show congress as well as potus hasn’t been watching Glenn Beck’s series on the U.S. Constitution.


12 posted on 12/15/2010 4:14:58 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: muawiyah

The Senate has been doing this for over 200 years. They are ALLOWED to amend a bill sent over from the House. They are also allowed to vote on a resolution that’s tantamount to what they will accept ~ then when the bill comes over from the House, to the degree it is different they will amend it in whole or in part to match their own.
They then send their bill (with the stuff they’ll go along with) back to the House and the House treats it as a new bill. It has to go through the house and back to the Senate, and soon.

From time to time they’ve used the reconciliation process to deal with this (where there are minor differences). Where there are large differences this business can go on for many iterations before both houses agree, but it has to ORIGINATE IN THE HOUSE, but it can be changed in the Senate.

The House is not required to be IGNANT of what the Senate will agree to.


This Bill ORIGINATED in the Senate, did it not? I don’t think it BEGAN in the House. The Obama Regime took it to the Senate FIRST. That’s Unconstitutional. They are doing it backward.

Now, there may indeed BE “no controlling legal authority.” The Democrats may indeed not have to follow the Constitution in this case (God knows they ignore it, violate it and crap on it in many other cases). BUT, Conservative Constitutionalists shouldn’t let it go unchallenged. They should IMMEDIATELY seek an injunction for relief from the Supreme Court if it is passed/signed into law. Why? IT’S AN OBVIOUS VIOLATION of Article 1, Section 7, Clause 1!

Then, if the SCOTUS fails to uphold the Constitution, well, I have further suggestions for the next move....


13 posted on 12/15/2010 4:17:22 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This would mean something if dems and rinos believed in the constitution.

I’ve been saying this for years. The budget is “written” by the president. That’s not the way it’s supposed to be either.


14 posted on 12/15/2010 4:17:42 PM PST by Terry Mross ( Reagan made one mistake: He chose Bush as his veep. We've been paying for it ever since.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
There is no such thing as a Constitution...they make it up as they go along.

Today it's inhaling, tomorrow it's exhaling.

It's progressive...

15 posted on 12/15/2010 4:20:46 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

16 posted on 12/15/2010 4:21:08 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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The Tax Bill Passed by the Senate is Unconstitutional

That's only the tip of the iceberg. The election of Hussian Obama was unconstitutional.

17 posted on 12/15/2010 4:22:09 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Are you serious? Are you serious?!?!


18 posted on 12/15/2010 4:27:17 PM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Blood of Tyrants

As someone once put it, “The Constitution presents no obstacle to our government.”


19 posted on 12/15/2010 4:28:30 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Bump


20 posted on 12/15/2010 4:28:30 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (WE'RE SCREWED 2008)
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