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Lakin facing jail time for guilty plea at start of 'birther' court-martial (Lakin quoted)
Stars and Stripes ^ | Dec. 14, 2010 | Leo Shane III

Posted on 12/14/2010 10:50:59 AM PST by SvenMagnussen

FORT MEADE, Md. — Even if Lt. Col. Terrance Lakin can prove that the president isn’t an American citizen, the 17-year soldier will still be going to jail.

Lakin, an Army physician who refused deployment to Afghanistan earlier this year because he believes Barack Obama cannot legally be president, will face up to 18 months in prison and dismissal from the service after pleading guilty Tuesday to charges of refusing his immediate commanders’ orders during his protest of the president.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; bannanarepublic; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; court; kangaroocourt; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama
At the hearing, Lakin told the court that he still believes that questions surround Obama’s presidency but that he should not have refused to meet with his superiors and report to Fort Campbell, Ky., while making his protest.

“I was praying and soul searching,” he said. “I believed there was a question that needs to be answered to ensure a valid chain of command. But I had asked every question, done everything else I could short of disobeying orders, without success.”

1 posted on 12/14/2010 10:51:13 AM PST by SvenMagnussen
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To: SvenMagnussen
Even if Lt. Col. Terrance Lakin can prove that the president isn’t an American citizen ...

BZZZZZZZZZZTTT!

Someone doesn't understand this case.

2 posted on 12/14/2010 10:55:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SvenMagnussen

Isaiah 5:20 - Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.


3 posted on 12/14/2010 10:56:17 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Setting aside the fact that Obama has spent millions (probably of our money) to avoid proving his legitimacy in court, what this debate is doing is keeping our attention away from the very real influences being applied upon our nation by the likes of his inner circle of advisers including, but not limited to: Wm. Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, Tim Geithner and FCC Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd.

The background of building Obama's character by communist drug dealer Frank Marshall Davis and Chicago radical Saul Alinsky deserve far more attention than arguing about where he may have been born.

4 posted on 12/14/2010 10:58:20 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Baynative

Obama is a dual citizen, not NBC! Does not matter what the BC says.


5 posted on 12/14/2010 11:01:11 AM PST by panthermom
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To: SvenMagnussen

“At the hearing, Lakin told the court that he still believes that questions surround Obama’s presidency but that he should not have refused to meet with his superiors and report to Fort Campbell, Ky., while making his protest. “

DUH! NOW he comes to this realization??? What has he been thinking about previously? I have no doubt there are questions about Obama’s legitimacy but I also have not doubt that his superior officer gave him a lawful order to deploy and as the Army informed him:

“LTC Lakin’s Article 138 complaint (a legal avenue for redress allowed service members for grievances against commanding officers) was deficient and that “the President as Commander-in-Chief is not a commanding officer for the purposes of Article 138 and therefore, no complaint against him may be addressed through this procedure.”

As screwed up and PC as the Army has become I still believe someone would have given the guy a break if he’d just dropped this crap and apologized. Now it may be too late.

In any case, a waste of an otherwise honorable career.


6 posted on 12/14/2010 11:02:47 AM PST by bigbob (.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Someone doesn't understand this case.

Or perhaps someone does understand this case but also wants to avoid putting it in black and white for all the military personnel reading the Stars and Stripes.

7 posted on 12/14/2010 11:09:10 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: bigbob
I still believe someone would have given the guy a break if he’d just dropped this crap and apologized.

Lt Col Lakin is correct in his contention that orders are illegal if they come from a suspect Chain of Command headed by a usurper, however to win this point he must have individuals above him who possess the same courage to stand up. Sadly, he doesn't.

8 posted on 12/14/2010 11:10:19 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: SteveH
Well, yes.

The question of eligibility for Obama is often "simplified" to the question "Is he a citizen?" which becomes a slam dunk win for Obama and makes Leftists think that the "birthers" must be cracked in the head.

Similarly, the recent effort to raise tax rates for middle class and "rich" folks was handled in a biased manner by the press. No one was proposing lowering any tax rates. Yet the media constantly talked about tax cuts for the wealthy. Sorry. No. That wasn't on the table. The question was "keep the rates the same, or let them go up". But you didn't hear that in the media too often.

9 posted on 12/14/2010 11:14:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Barack Hussein Obama II is clearly identified on his SSN application, circa 1975-76, as a “Legal Resident” and not a “U.S. Citizen.”

If Lakin were allowed to subpoena Obama’s SSN application on file with the SSA, then the fact Obama is identified as a Legal Resident and not a U.S. Citizen would be ignored.

Lakin is going to jail even though Obama is ineligible to be POTUS.


10 posted on 12/14/2010 11:25:08 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Soebarkah renounced his US Citizenship in 1968.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

If I could keep a honorable man out of jail by showing my birth certificate I would. What say you, Obama????


11 posted on 12/14/2010 11:28:37 AM PST by MissTed ( Do women in burqas have fun tagging each other in Facebook photos?)
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To: SvenMagnussen

No end in sight for your prevarications, is there?

Stop making stuff up.


12 posted on 12/14/2010 11:34:25 AM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

” Someone doesn’t understand this case.”

Yep, your are right it is NBC not citizenship (although he has shown neither)

http://www.stripes.com/reporters/leo-shane-iii?author=Leo_Shane_III

Leo Shane III

Here is the author’s e-mail address:

shanel@stripes.osd.mil


13 posted on 12/14/2010 11:45:26 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Barack Hussein Obama II is clearly identified on his SSN application, circa 1975-76, as a “Legal Resident” and not a “U.S. Citizen.”

Source? If this is true, Jan. 3rd could be the beginning of the end. Pray that you are correct.

14 posted on 12/14/2010 11:49:36 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: El Sordo

The only thing that is made up, traitor, is the excuses Obama keeps giving for not showing his Occidental college transcripts.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 11:50:25 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Soebarkah renounced his US Citizenship in 1968.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
You have an interesting criteria for ‘traitor’.

Calls Sven out for making things up = Traitor.

Heh.

16 posted on 12/14/2010 11:52:40 AM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
...excuses Obama keeps giving for not showing his Occidental college transcripts.

An impeachable offense if ever there was one.

17 posted on 12/14/2010 11:55:07 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Texas Fossil; SvenMagnussen

Source?

I’m unsure if the source is an overdose of cold medicine, too much pizza before bedtime or simple old fashioned lying.

Regardless, Sven made it up.

You’ll never see him provide a whit of proof or support.


18 posted on 12/14/2010 12:08:26 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Baynative
Obama has spent millions (probably of our money)

It was illegally dispersed from his campaign fund.

19 posted on 12/14/2010 12:21:26 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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