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Richard Holbrooke has died
ABC News ^ | December 13, 2010 | Jack Tapper

Posted on 12/13/2010 4:59:54 PM PST by Ravnagora

ABC News has learned that Richard Holbrooke, the US Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, has died.

On Friday, Holbrooke was rushed to the hospital with a torn aorta. He went through more than 20 hours of surgery. Earlier this evening, speaking at the US State Department, President Obama sang Holbrooke's praises and called him "a tough son of a gun."

Holbrooke, 69, was a former ambassador to the United Nations and served as chief negotiator at the Dayton Peace Accords, which ended the war in Bosnia.

The New Yorker's George Packer wrote a nice story about Holbrooke last year, which you can read HERE.


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To: tricksy

Uh no, diplomatic efforts from the Russians saved NATO’s face, not their bombs, this was one of NATO’s most embarrassing moments.


201 posted on 12/14/2010 8:07:46 AM PST by montyspython
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To: Ravnagora

RIP Ambassador Holbrooke. I think in your heart you loved America. God Bless.


202 posted on 12/14/2010 8:26:22 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Thank You Rush

Re: your post #102... Quite a long list of change agents in that post. Change agent = “Progressive” mole working on the fundamental transformation of America and the world. Holbrooke was one of them.


203 posted on 12/14/2010 8:32:27 AM PST by Sal (When did so much of the USA become so pathetically suicidal?)
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To: Thank You Rush

Re: your post #102... Quite a long list of change agents in that post. Change agent = “Progressive” mole working on the fundamental transformation of America and the world. Holbrooke was one of them.


204 posted on 12/14/2010 8:32:49 AM PST by Sal (When did so much of the USA become so pathetically suicidal?)
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To: SlapHappyPappy
Even when we disagreed with their politics we didn’t show the deceased such disrespect. That was supposed to be the kind of thing only Democrats would do.

Well I sure don't want to be like Democrats or DU or the Kos doofuses so I'll pray for all the many, many people and families that Holbrooke deliberately and maliciously destroyed. That way I'll stay positive while not contributing to the elevation of evil.

205 posted on 12/14/2010 8:37:24 AM PST by Sal (When did so much of the USA become so pathetically suicidal?)
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To: Revolting cat!
All these threads about famous people dying! Why no threads about famous people being born?

That's saved for December 25th.

206 posted on 12/14/2010 8:38:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: tricksy

Please don’t compare Holbrooke with Reagan.


207 posted on 12/14/2010 8:51:01 AM PST by expatpat
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To: fkabuckeyesrule; 23 Everest

Armitage, I believe....


208 posted on 12/14/2010 8:53:50 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Ravnagora

The true meaning of “De Mortuis nil nisi bonum” is not that we should glorify the deceased, but rather that if there is nothing positive to say, we should say nothing.

So, I will say nothing.

His deeds are on record and they speak for themselves.

May God have mercy on his soul, if he has one.


209 posted on 12/14/2010 8:58:55 AM PST by DTA
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To: Ravnagora

According to Drudge:”As Mr. Holbrooke was sedated for surgery, family members said, his final words were to his Pakistani surgeon: ‘You’ve got to stop this war in Afghanistan’...”

Does anyone other than me think this is BS??


210 posted on 12/14/2010 9:04:44 AM PST by NCBraveheart ("oderint dum metuant"........Let them hate, as long as they fear.)
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To: A Navy Vet; SlapHappyPappy; All

“...It’s depth of our character our actions for the betterment of mankind that earns respect, not because we simply died. Dying is the easiest part of life. It’s inevitable and has nothing to do with respect....”

You make a seriously good point, Navy Vet.

Personally, I pray for the person’s soul. What they did in life has real and sometimes horrible repercussions to OTHER people who are still alive - and who are still here paying the price for the deeds of those who left the mess behind and kicked off.

Ted Kennedy is a PERFECT example, for instance. People have died BECAUSE of his actions, his legislation, and his malfeasance. People living their normal, daily lives had them interrupted and in some cases terminated, because of actions this man directly initiated. Gun control laws are a perfect example - where law-abiding citizens were denied their Constitutional, Civil, and HUMAN RIGHT to defend themselves and were murdered as a result of it. Ted was big, big, big on limiting our rights to defend ourselves.

So, to your point, how can I or any of us respect a man like that, just because he’s dead? To my mind, it’s a positive thing that he’s gone and has no further power to cause harm and help to inflict a subversive agenda on everything I love and hold dear.

We feel the initial pang of “respect” because basically, I think, the majority of folks here are decent American folk, brought up to respect the rights of another person to live and let live.

It’s a natural reaction, I think. It’s only when we stop and think about what this or that person actually DID with their lives, the actions they caused with the temporary authority that we handed them, that we get incensed.

Yes, we all die. We’re born to it. But it’s what we DO while we’re here, and sometimes what we DON’T do, that affects those that are still here after us - and sometimes several generations hence.

I don’t know much about Holbrook either; but I do know that if he was working for and with the current administration, and was pursuing THIER goals and THEIR agenda, then he probably won’t be missed by too many out here. Me included.

I’ll pray for his family so that their grief can be eased over time. I’ll also pray for the folks that were damaged because of his actions as well, and those that have to pick up the pieces of shattered lives.


211 posted on 12/14/2010 9:13:39 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: theDentist

I thought the same thing......like what is the surgeon supposed to do?


212 posted on 12/14/2010 10:09:39 AM PST by panthermom
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To: DTA

Awaiting for karma to strike Maddy Albright next.


213 posted on 12/14/2010 11:04:40 AM PST by montyspython
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To: montyspython
Either karma or wikileakia gravis acuta (sudden creep death syndrome):

Kosovo PM is head of human organ and arms ring, Council of Europe reports

214 posted on 12/14/2010 11:19:20 AM PST by DTA
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To: Lmo56

Ritter made it to the hospital, but they weren’t able to diagnose the condition in time to save him.

His family sued the hospital, of course.


215 posted on 12/14/2010 11:42:32 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: bravo whiskey

This guy was a traitorous piece of left-wing feces. Why should any of us feel bad that he went to hell where he belongs.


216 posted on 12/14/2010 12:50:01 PM PST by ohioman
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To: Liberty Valance

Amen. God is his only judge.


217 posted on 12/14/2010 1:08:09 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Ravnagora
Up to now, the word was that he was "abrasive and arrogant."

It looks like a lot of websites even included "Richard Holbrook arrogant" among their key words to increase their rating.

Today the tributes are unanimous.

Funny how things can change like that.

It's also funny how Holbrooke's original family name is a more closely guarded secret than anything else in the State Department files.

218 posted on 12/14/2010 1:23:40 PM PST by x
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To: tricksy
Apparently the bomb explosions were loud enough to convey some sense into the heads of Serbia's leadership.

Really? That's like saying that "the 9/11 attack was necessary to knock some sense into America's leadership". That's a completely BS New World Orderist (and Islamist) argument -- in fact, people quit listening to you when you attack and bomb them, their defenses go up, not down. Political leaders are never more popular than they are when their country is being attacked. That NATO Bombing turned a POS Socialist like Milosevic into a martyr, even to people who hated him before it.

Here's a 2 yr old article on Holbrooke, showing just how he lied to the American people about the Rambouilett document and the NATO Bombing. All through the Charlie Rose interview, Holbrooke talks about how "reasonable" the Rambouillet Agreement is, when in fact, it not only called for a NATO occupation of Kosovo, but also a complete NATO occupation of ALL of Serbia and Montenegro. Signing that document would have meant signing complete Yugoslav sovereignty over to NATO. I wouldn't have signed it if I were him either!

Am I happy that Holbrooke is dead? No. But I am happy that he is no longer a player in American politics? Yes! Because he embodied all that is wrong with it, in his reckless disregard for telling the American people the truth! We have more than enough liars in Washington; we won't miss one New World Orderist, even a little bit!

219 posted on 12/14/2010 1:30:01 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: A Navy Vet
It's depth of our character our actions for the betterment of mankind that earns respect, not because we simply died. Dying is the easiest part of life. It's inevitable and has nothing to do with respect.

Sorry, to go off topic, but this idea of "respect the dead" simply doesn't make sense.

Yes and no.

It's not that all criticism is out of bounds, it's that people should think twice about becoming part of an attack pack on the day of someone's death.

The way that some people descend like jackals on someone just because they happened to die is unseemly.

I couldn't resist a jab at Holbrooke, or rather at his reputation, so I can't preach, but since one can't expect people to keep criticism within bounds, "respect for the dead" isn't a bad rule.

220 posted on 12/14/2010 1:32:25 PM PST by x
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