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Breaking On Fox: VA Judge Declares Individual Mandate In ObamaCare UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Fox News | 12/13/10 | Fox News

Posted on 12/13/2010 9:21:01 AM PST by careyb

Just in... will keep you posted...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bhohealthcare; commiecomeuppence; cuccinelli; healthcare; individualmandate; obamacare; ruling; scotus; statesrights; virginia
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To: ncalburt

I agree with you. My concern is that I’m not sure how much I trust our side to do the right thing. They can’t even kill this awful tax bill. In fact, most are supporting this pork laden bill. I say vote it down and start all over in January.


241 posted on 12/13/2010 11:05:31 AM PST by animal172 (Where are you America?)
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To: vrwc1
One would hope so. And that was my reaction too. However, this is from the linked article.

Some things that the Court would likely leave unaffected would include the expansion of Medicaid, reporting obligations for businesses and hospitals, expansion of the Children’s Health Insurance Program, funds for “family planning,” expansion of state aging and disability resource centers, expanded funding for prevention programs and workplace education, reforms to inpatient rehabilitation and hospices, the addition of value-based payments for physicians and hospitals, and many provisions relating to Medicare services in rural areas… And that’s just for starters. The point is that the overwhelming portion of this legislation is not tied directly to the individual mandate.

242 posted on 12/13/2010 11:05:48 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Step one. Next comes an appelate panel. Then the entire appelate court. Then the Supremes.”

I thought this court was the “rocket docket” which went straight to the Supremes on appeal due to D.C. being in its area.

Legal eagles correct me if I’m wrong.


243 posted on 12/13/2010 11:06:56 AM PST by Persevero (5 days until the lame duck Congress goes home.)
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To: vrwc1
...it wouldn't make sense...

And that's stopped the Democrats when?

244 posted on 12/13/2010 11:07:41 AM PST by nina0113
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To: nina0113

“Watching the chestnuts pop! Pop pop pop!”

Chestnuts! Now there’s an idea. Headed to the store to buy some. Poke a hole in them, bake them in the oven for a little while and then consume. Yummy!


245 posted on 12/13/2010 11:09:14 AM PST by animal172 (Where are you America?)
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To: careyb

“*****Applies only to VA****”

However, there are about 20 other states that are united with the VA case, and as others have said, next stop the SCOTUS.


246 posted on 12/13/2010 11:09:38 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Persevero

No, it’s called the “rocket docket”, because that court reaches its decisions quickly. It is possible that the suit could be heard next at SCOTUS, but it’s more likely to go through the 4th court of appeals first.


247 posted on 12/13/2010 11:10:42 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: SeattleBruce

The Virginia case is by itself, because Virginia has a freedom from ObamaCare act. There is another case in Florida that has about 20 states joined together in it.


248 posted on 12/13/2010 11:14:03 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: careyb

I think this just sunk Obama’s boat.
If I remember correctly, they forgot to add the part where if one part is shot down, the rest stays.

I think it is dead!


249 posted on 12/13/2010 11:14:34 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: P-Marlowe; holdonnow

I heard Mark Levin weight in about the missing severibility clause (which is often added in conference) and he said that we could not count on it. He said that appeals courts often picked one part of a bill and declared it invalid and left the rest of the bill intact.

He said don’t count on a moderate flaw declared unconstituional to bring the whole thing down unless it was so integral to funding or application that its abscence made the bill impossible to apply.


250 posted on 12/13/2010 11:16:55 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Munz

The judge in this case said that there was a presumption of severability. He has severed the individual mandate and declared it unconstitutional as well as any provisions that depend on it. The rest of the legislation still stands.


251 posted on 12/13/2010 11:18:04 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: DarthVader; stockpirate

see my comment at #250


252 posted on 12/13/2010 11:19:24 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The point is that the overwhelming portion of this legislation is not tied directly to the individual mandate.

Perhaps not tied directly, but all the expanded funding, new programs and layers of bureaucracy are paid for by the individual mandate, and are fiscally unsustainable without it.

253 posted on 12/13/2010 11:21:54 AM PST by vrwc1
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To: stockpirate

Could the Feds argue on the basis the Sarbanes-Oxley law? They didn’t have a severability clause yet the courts kept most of it intact after it was challenged.


254 posted on 12/13/2010 11:23:35 AM PST by ak267
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To: KC Burke

A big round of applause for Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, II, Attorney General for the Commonwealth of Virginia


255 posted on 12/13/2010 11:23:35 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: American Constitutionalist
There is no requirement for implanting ID chips.
256 posted on 12/13/2010 11:25:08 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: nina0113

Right...I keep forgetting that one shouldn’t think logically when considering what democrats might do. ;-)


257 posted on 12/13/2010 11:25:13 AM PST by vrwc1
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To: ScottinVA

Sarah Palin/Ken Cuccenelli for President/VP in 2012!


258 posted on 12/13/2010 11:25:25 AM PST by StormEye
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To: careyb

This makes this a Merry Christmas like no other. Just think last Christmas we were pacing the floor as the Senate forced this through at the last minute. This Christmas it’s unconstitutional, the GOP has the house and six more seats in the Senate, plus control over most of the redistricting for the 2012 elections. Yippee!


259 posted on 12/13/2010 11:27:06 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: vrwc1

Agreed. Ripping out the mandate creates a domino effect.


260 posted on 12/13/2010 11:27:38 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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