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Breyer: Founding Fathers Would Have Allowed Restrictions on Guns
Foxnews ^ | Dec 12, 2010 | Foxnews

Posted on 12/12/2010 11:33:59 AM PST by driftdiver

If you look at the values and the historical record, you will see that the Founding Fathers never intended guns to go unregulated, Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer contended Sunday.

Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Breyer said history stands with the dissenters in the court's decision to overturn a Washington, D.C., handgun ban in the 2008 case "D.C. v. Heller."

Breyer wrote the dissent and was joined by Justices John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. He said historians would side with him in the case because they have concluded that Founding Father James Madison was more worried that the Constitution may not be ratified than he was about granting individuals the right to bear arms.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; billofrights; davidsouter; johnpaulstevens; partyoftreason; ruthbaderginsburg; scotus; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; stephenbreyer
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To: driftdiver

The Federalist Papers
http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/


141 posted on 12/12/2010 4:38:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: DemonDeac

A prolifically idiotic and moronic statement.


142 posted on 12/12/2010 4:38:52 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Tax-chick
Congrats to Bill! When you've finished brushing all the dryer lint off the recruiter, see if you can get a written commitment for a branch designation.

My husband was able to choose his branch back in '73 at GA Tech (he chose Chemical Corps, he's a chemist). That may have been a special deal with Tech, don't know for sure.

143 posted on 12/12/2010 4:41:12 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Tax-chick
To be absolutely accurate, I guess you can say I met him - if by meeting him you mean smiling and nodding in a crowd after a speech!

But I've heard him speak, and he's good. And I'm not just saying that because he's from right down the road from my parents' house!

144 posted on 12/12/2010 4:42:45 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: driftdiver
Memo to "Justice" Breyer:
If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair. The usurpers, clothed with the forms of legal authority, can too often crush the opposition in embryo. The smaller the extent of the territory, the more difficult will it be for the people to form a regular or systematic plan of opposition, and the more easy will it be to defeat their early efforts. Intelligence can be more speedily obtained of their preparations and movements, and the military force in the possession of the usurpers can be more rapidly directed against the part where the opposition has begun. In this situation there must be a peculiar coincidence of circumstances to insure success to the popular resistance.

With love from Alexander Hamilton [Federalist #28]


145 posted on 12/12/2010 4:44:45 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Tax-chick

Sounds like good news!


146 posted on 12/12/2010 4:46:05 PM PST by txhurl
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To: DemonDeac
Thomas is an idiot and comes off as one whenever he opens his mouth.

Wow. What an ignorant statement. I guess you haven't read My Grandfather's Son; or talked to anyone who has worked with him. Maybe you could share two or three idiotic statements you've heard even attributed to the man?

ML/NJ

147 posted on 12/12/2010 4:51:45 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

bttt!


148 posted on 12/12/2010 4:56:24 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

It is good news. With a little more work on his math, he can have a stratospheric SAT score and get substantial financial aid from a respectable state college, if he decides against ROTC. My husband and I are pushing it, because it’s not only a paid college education but a job afterward.


149 posted on 12/12/2010 4:59:48 PM PST by Tax-chick (He will be Peace.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Bill would like artillery, I think. The Army recruiter is the man who caught him frisking on the church roof ;-).


150 posted on 12/12/2010 5:00:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (He will be Peace.)
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To: cbkaty

After the last 2 nominees, I don’t think they’re smarter than the average bear.


151 posted on 12/12/2010 5:02:42 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: driftdiver

I saw him on Fox News Sunday. His comments weren’t very well thought out. Had the founders seen fit to remove guns from the hands of early settlers, they would certainly have perished. They would have perished, if for no other reason, for lack of wild game for food. Breyer’s comments were absolutely absurd.


152 posted on 12/12/2010 5:03:02 PM PST by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: sinanju

hE ABSOLUTELY REFUSED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION DIRECTLY AND HIS SMUG ARROGANCE AND DISGUSTING DISDAIN WAS APPALLING!


153 posted on 12/12/2010 5:04:41 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok....Joke's over...Bring Back Bush!)
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To: driftdiver
The question REMAINS: WHY WOULD ANYONE BE RESTRICTED FROM SELF PROTECTION?

And if so...why would it even be mentioned in the Bill of Rights if it wasn't a right.

The Bill of Rights are individual rights...everyone of them.

154 posted on 12/12/2010 5:11:21 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: driftdiver
Like most Democrat Socialist, he has, convenient, selective recall and a first calls imagination to invent “history” to suit the purposes of the aristocracy.
155 posted on 12/12/2010 5:19:06 PM PST by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: driftdiver

The only possible limits would have to do with maintenance of a private army, or display of a loaded weapon in a public. Even that would be primarily the concern of the local and state authorities. The feds could get involved only in case of insurrection against the state.


156 posted on 12/12/2010 5:20:00 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Tax-chick
All right! My dad was in the shore artillery before he wangled an OCS appointment and wound up in the horse cavalry (go figure!) He went thence to the Combat Engineers. That's the sort of thing you can expect from the Army. But it all worked out o.k.

A good tutor is well worth the cost for the math portion of the SAT. 3-4 sessions significantly raised my daughter's math score. The tutor was recommended by her AP math teacher.

157 posted on 12/12/2010 5:20:45 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: DemonDeac

His opinions are also just fine. No doubt that there are men who could have filled the seat better, but that can be said about many a WHITE justice, such as Fred Vincent, Truman’s pick.


158 posted on 12/12/2010 5:24:13 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: driftdiver

Breyer’s an idiot; however, idiocy has become the latter day norm in the US.


159 posted on 12/12/2010 5:25:43 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: drpix

IIRC, the leftwing blockhead (good term!) who said 2A was only about flintlocks was CJ Warren Burger. He appeared on the cover of Parade magazine grinning while holding a 1795 musket and in the feature story said basically, screw you NRA, this is what a strict interpretation of 2A allows you to have, so STFU!


160 posted on 12/12/2010 5:30:59 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I don't like Islam and I don't trust Muslims.")
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