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Jeffrey Bell: Return America to the Gold Standard
moneynews.com ^ | December 10, 2010 | Greg Brown and Ashley Martella

Posted on 12/10/2010 6:48:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jeffrey Bell, a two-time campaign adviser to Ronald Reagan, says it’s high time that the United States return to the gold standard, abandoned by President Richard Nixon in 1971. He cites Reagan as a proponent of the monetary regime and squarely blames current Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke’s policies for the ongoing global economic stagnation.

Bell is policy director of the American Principles Project. He served as an issues adviser in Ronald Reagan’s 1976 and 1980 presidential campaigns and was the Republican Party’s nominee for the U.S. Senate in New Jersey in 1978.

Bernanke’s policies — extremely low interest rates and flooding the system with unneeded dollars — are feeding stagnation and making our debt problems worse, Bell tells Newsmax.TV.

“Right now, Ben Bernanke, the chairman of the Fed, is printing dollars. He’s really just summoning them up from cyberspace, out of a computer,” Bell says.

“If he had to know that each dollar was something of independent value, backed by gold or some other commodity — preferably gold — it would be much harder for the United States to borrow all this money it does from foreigners in order to finance huge budget deficits.”

Since rates are at zero, Bell says, nobody can tell what shape the economy is in or how long rates will stay low. The longer we stay at artificially low rates through money printing, the more the confusion grows, Bell maintains.

“I think that’s a big threat to the world economy’s sense of confidence,” Bell says.

Bernanke has gone on the offensive, appearing on “60 Minutes” to defend the Fed's $600 billion bond-buying plan. During the interview, he suggested that a third round wasn't impossible.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benbernanke; bonds; dollar; dollars; economy; fed; federalreserve; gold; goldstandard; inflation; jeffreybell; quantitativeeasing; reagan; ronaldreagan; stagnation
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To: muir_redwoods
Not at $16/oz or $20.67/oz or $35/oz. Maybe not even at $1410/oz. However, if Potomac fever were cured, and our politicians stopped all the g*ddamn spending, then maybe we could afford the business of government at $1410/oz.
61 posted on 12/10/2010 10:59:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Charlie Rangel doesn't deal in average Americans. That's OK: I don't deal in crooked pols.)
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To: Pelham

I thought every dollar had to be backed by gold. Such a requirement would make inflation less likely, because without such a requirement, you could certainly print dollars with abandon (kinda like what is happening now).


62 posted on 12/10/2010 11:04:01 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Charlie Rangel doesn't deal in average Americans. That's OK: I don't deal in crooked pols.)
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To: Ramius
We have to put some kind of limit on the money supply somehow, or run the risk of this.
63 posted on 12/10/2010 11:06:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Charlie Rangel doesn't deal in average Americans. That's OK: I don't deal in crooked pols.)
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To: Freedom4US
Of course even this assumes that the gold, that has not been audited since Eisenhower was President, is still there, or has not been pledged, swapped, leased or sold, etc.

For all we know, the Red Chinese could be holding it as part of the collateral for all the money that they have loaned us.

64 posted on 12/10/2010 11:19:49 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Charlie Rangel doesn't deal in average Americans. That's OK: I don't deal in crooked pols.)
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To: jiggyboy; PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; Jet Jaguar; ...
Goldbug ping.


65 posted on 12/10/2010 11:22:51 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: taxtruth
$1,410 an ounce. That is why we cannot return to the gold standard.

You would destroy the Dollar and our economy in one fell swoop.

66 posted on 12/11/2010 3:45:16 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Pelham

.....The dollar was still convertible among central banks until Nixon......

Who cut the link and quit selling gold for $35/oz because the market price was $43 and our gold was being carried off by the truck load

It is interesting this thread says the accounting valuation of the reserves is $42 or near the value on the day Nixon shut the gold window.


67 posted on 12/11/2010 4:45:04 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I have always been hesitant to buy things of great value on e-bay. Besides dealers, are there any other venues (clubs) where one can buy precious metals directly and in person from individuals thus bypassing the middleman?


68 posted on 12/11/2010 8:49:38 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Nice image. Do you have one of the flip side?


69 posted on 12/11/2010 9:37:27 AM PST by goldbux (When yer odd, the odds are with you.)
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To: goldbux

https://www.theworldreserve.com/images/details/CUR50BNUG.jpg

Click the URL. I cannot post the image.


70 posted on 12/11/2010 4:56:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“I thought every dollar had to be backed by gold. “

That’s a common misconception. Every dollar must be convertible to gold upon demand, but that’s not the same as having gold back each dollar in existence. The monetary base is gold under a gold standard, with a structure of credit money built on top of it. The growth of that credit money is restrained by the fact that it can be redeemed for gold, which is likely to occur when the public thinks that an excessive number of dollars have been created. As long as there isn’t an excessive issue of credit money people are content to keep their savings in dollars rather than gold. You can see that process in action today.


71 posted on 12/11/2010 7:38:47 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Freedom4US

“You must have missed my question - given the framers disastrous experience with paper currencies fresh in their minds when they wrote the constitution and bill of rights, the legislation requiring gold and silver to be the only lawful money, etc., &c, don’t you think it a bit queer that Roosevelt got away with that? “

Not really. Lincoln suspended the gold standard and issued an enormous amount of fiat currency during the Civil War, the greenbacks of the US Notes series. The gold standard didn’t return for 17 years.


72 posted on 12/11/2010 7:46:26 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Freedom4US

The vast majority of Americans didn’t have one gold coin to turn in. The average household income of that era was, prior to the hard years of the Depression, less than $2,000 per year. Gold coins were largely held by banks as part of their reserves.

“For my part, there may be good reasons to do, or not do, certain things but why the secrecy and pseudo-legal mumbo jumbo?”

I don’t know that there was any secrecy about it. I think that idea comes mostly from the tales of modern conspiracy fans. The legal issue came from those who had gold clauses in their contracts and who didn’t want to be paid in cheaper dollars. But that was a moot issue since during the Depression dollars were much harder than before, not cheaper. Gold remained the monetary base. But revaluing it while it was still in circulation would have given a 30% windfall to the tiny minority who held gold, and this would likely have been extremely unpopular considering the desperate conditions of that time. Whether that was the proper thing to do you’ll have to decide. I’m just trying to describe it, not judge it.


73 posted on 12/11/2010 8:09:15 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Freedom4US

There’s plenty of Supreme Court decisions that I dislike but I haven’t noticed that my dissenting opinion has made them see the error of their ways even once.

The reasoning of the Supreme Court in 1935 is that the Constitution grants Congress the power to regulate the monetary system and abrogating the private ownership of gold falls within this power. Google “gold clause cases” and you can find plenty to read about the issue.


74 posted on 12/11/2010 8:29:28 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: bert

The market price had become $43 because neither Kennedy nor Johnson nor Nixon was willing to address Triffin’s Dilemma, which would have required an American recession and replacing the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. It was primarily the French who were cashing in their dollar holdings for gold.


75 posted on 12/11/2010 8:34:22 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ok, thanks. Added it to our collection.


76 posted on 12/11/2010 9:11:24 PM PST by goldbux (When yer odd, the odds are with you.)
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To: Ghotier
You have to be a graduate of one of those grand ivied establishments of higher bloviation who still fail to realize that no matter how hard you rub, you can't polish a turd. Please tell me ONE fiat currency in the history of the world that has worked. Most have lasted about 40 years. Our world fiat monetary system is about that old now. The only difference is that this time it's a reserve currency. The only option the central banks of the world have is to print to infinity.

Nam Vet

77 posted on 12/11/2010 9:20:25 PM PST by Nam Vet (Are you better off than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I've been reading through most of the posts and the lack of monetary history is astounding.

Since Biblical times, the price of a kilo (aprox) loaf of bread has run between about 300 and 388 loaves per ounce of gold. The latest hyperinflationary induced famine was Zimbabwe, as I'm sure you all know. You probably saw all the news stories about people panning for gold to buy bread.

If you recall the price, it was 1 tenth of a gram of gold per loaf. At 31.103 grams per troy ounce, that looks like it is about 311 loaves per ounce. Fits right into the historical norms, but at the more expensive end of the scale. The same works for housing and even the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

Stop thinking the way the media, bankers and politicians want you to think about money.

Nam Vet

78 posted on 12/11/2010 9:46:15 PM PST by Nam Vet (Are you better off than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Pelham

It’s nor “conspiracy”, it’s all in the public record in fact and very well documented. Of course nobidy wants to be paid back in depreciated money, but that’s not news. What’s important to note is the repudiation of gold clause contracts - what you’re really talking about is the unit of account with respect to the rule of law, etc. You certainly should be able to judge that because it is a form of theft under color of law. Long term lease contracts are often 99 years. Expressed in terms of gold or some objective standard makes sense. Otherwise, inflation eats away at the currency value and end up with absurdities as renting whole office buildings for a song. See where I’m going with that?

See: Trostel v. American Life and Casualty


79 posted on 12/12/2010 3:24:15 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Pelham

Yes, those are them.

The problem arises because coins are required to have a nominal face value, when the metal price exceeds the face value it becomes profitable to sell the coins for scrap. This is why current law prevents scrapping nickles and cents, but not silver coinage - the latter having been demonetized and replaced with clad material.


80 posted on 12/12/2010 3:29:47 AM PST by Freedom4US
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