WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant 'Insurance' File if Shut Down

Fox News ^ | December 05, 2010 | Unknown

[Las Vegas Ron]

Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.

[Lorianne]

I have no idea what your post has to do with what I posted.

These hackers are not going to go away no matter how much we wish they would or imagine gruesome deaths for them.

We need better security.

[freedumb2003]

>>“Assagan”enation Betting Pool on Free Republic??<<

Excellent word play and a GREAT idea!

[Las Vegas Ron]

If Assange is connected to George Soros, and George Soros is connected to the Democrat Party...

When you consider these people thrive on chaos to achieve their goals, these leaks fit perfectly.

[Reily]

except we have never done extralegal killing for acts of espionage, not even in the deepest darkest days of the Cold War. That's TV/Hollywood stuff!

The Rosenbergs were caught by legal counterespionage actions (which included SIGINT!) properly tried and convicted. However the difference is Rosenbergs were naturalized citizens, assigned to the Manhattan Project and therefore under signed obligation with full knowledge of the consequences of violating that obligation to protect US secrets. The only one in the currently WikiLeaks affair who at least as I see it has an obligation to protect those secrets is Manning. He failed to do so, apparently over some failed gay lover affair! Again past relaxation of security standards are coming back to haunt us and the Zero administration wants to relax them more!
Right now all we now about Assange is he is an Australian nihilistic anarchist. He might be an agent of a foreign power but even then there is NO evidence he is anything more then a receptacle of secrets not a tasker of acts of espionage. Basically he put Wikileaks out there on the web and invited malcontents and sociopaths from around the world to give it content. It would be a stretch to call that “espionage tasking”. Right now I can't see how he has violated our laws, Manning violated the law and his soldierly duty. He needs to pay dearly for his actions.
Assange right now has to answer for his "social" actions in a Swedish court which apparently have to do with underage rape. He isn't a Muzzie so maybe Swedish justice won't be intimidated, and I hope Swedish prisons are very cold!

[freedumb2003]

>>These hackers are not going to go away no matter how much we wish they would or imagine gruesome deaths for them.<<

Wanna bet a few of them getting blowed up would not have a chilling effect? These are geeks, not muzzie radicals.

>>We need better security<<

Absolutely. The problem becomes geometrically more difficult to implement based on the size of the organization. Can you imagine the logistics of installing and maintaining Bitlocker and data passwords on hundreds of thousands of laptops and desktops? Disabling or severely limiting USB ports so as to disable thumb drives and external HDDs?

And those are the LOW HANGING steps...

I think taking out some of these scumbags with extreme prejudice would be a better security step.

[freedumb2003]

>>except we have never done extralegal killing for acts of espionage<<

It is a new world — no time like the present to tell the world we will NOT allow our secrets to be published and that we WILL take action.

And such action is not “extralegal.” It is 100% within international law guidelines.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks AWM.

[Red Steel]

Obama and Assange have been in cahoots together before. Look at the connection with the Odinga election- when an Assange document leak saved Obama’s cousin Odinga.

The more Assange selectively releases messages with no 'embarrassing' and/or are not detrimental to Obama certainly makes it look that way.

[bigheadfred]

I have no idea what you are trying to prove to me

The enemy is easy to spot. It isn't Assange. It isn't Manning. It isn't even islam.

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Bout time to withdraw that consent, Ron. Getting enough people to set down their long enough to get about the business of being free men is the hard part.

[Reily]

Please give me the link or the reference that says a “James Bond wet operation” is sanctioned by international law!

Anyway to this US Citizen I DO NOT want any precedent established where international law trumps the US Constitution and our legal system! To me international law is a legal fiction, law without the power of enforcement is a chimera! Who do you want to be the cops when the US is charges with violating international law. Something we seem to be charged with by every foreign yahoo with a soapbox.

Also I don't want foreign intel agents enforcing their espionage problems on US soil. They do that I want them charged with murder!

[devere]

It’s the “doomsday machine” from the movie “Dr Strangelove”.

[bigheadfred]

I’m thinking we need some added security measures. So watch for an announcement soon. “We, the PTB, have determined that there is really nothing we can do about Wikileaks. SOOOO, to ensure that damaging information doesn’t fall into the wrong hands, we are cutting (Las Vegas Ron’s) internet connection.”

[freedumb2003]

>>Please give me the link or the reference that says a “James Bond wet operation” is sanctioned by international law!<<

It is unspoken yet quite operative

>>Anyway to this US Citizen I DO NOT want any precedent established where international law trumps the US Constitution and our legal system! <<

This is an international crime committed on the USA by a foreigner — an enemy combatant (we already have capital punishment on the books for treason by USA citizens).

Or are you one of those girly-girls who think we should just grab our enemies’ hands and sing Kumbya while they assault us.

Go back to DU — I am sure they are missing their village silly-frillypants by now.

[LomanBill]

>>These hackers

Hackers? LOL.  Bradley Manning isn't a "hacker" he's a disgruntled miscreant pink-herring who is symptomatic of the systemically corrupted state of our national moral infrastructure.

>>We need better security.

Should've thought about that before hiring all those H1B "technical specialists" and off-shoring manufacture of chips and components.   The barn door has been stolen along with the horses.

 

Furthermore, Security begins with the honorable and moral character of the individuals who comprise the system.  THAT is what's been systematically subverted and compromised over the last 50 years.

And now where are we?

“The Pink Swastika is a powerful exposure of pre-World War II Germany and its quest for reviving and imitating a Hellenistic-paganistic idea of homo-eroticism and militarism.”        
Dr. Mordechai Nisan, Hebrew University of Jerusalem

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

 

Is it 1933 yet, again?

[Las Vegas Ron]

Bout time to withdraw that consent, Ron.

You make some pretty large assumptions as well as arrogant accusations....you handle your business if you can and I'll handle mine.

[Las Vegas Ron]

It’s the “doomsday machine” from the movie “Dr Strangelove”.

LOL, I've already preserved my precious bodily fluids...

[Las Vegas Ron]

“We, the PTB, have determined that there is really nothing we can do about Wikileaks.

Whose to say that isn't the objective here?

Maybe they just want to let some air out of that big head of yours.

[bigheadfred]

I am not ripping on you, Ron. If I’ve given you that impression I apologize.

IMO, OBAMA is not our friend, Ron. IMO, if he can take everything we have and put us all in one spot where he can keep an eye on us, he will. I’m not too fond of that. That’s all I mean.

[magooey]

Not to mention the cananaboids (?) hard to spell, even harder to pronounce

Is a rendering of "canada birds" in Brooklynese close?

[bigheadfred]

BTW, did you catch this one?

Assange said that all the documents were redacted "carefully." "They are all reviewed, and they're all redacted either by us or by the newspapers concerned," he said. He added that WikiLeaks "formally asked the State Department for assistance with that. That request was formally rejected."

Link

"The law is not what Hillary Clinton says it is."

I haven't really checked to see if Hillary is denying this. Maybe someone else knows?