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These leaks spell doom for web freedom [Rees-Mogg re Wikileaks]
Mail Online ^ | William Rees-Mogg

Posted on 12/05/2010 7:27:04 AM PST by AndyJackson

... the publication of 250,000 American diplomatic cables by WikiLeaks... demonstrates that it is no longer possible to rely on the confidentiality of any sources, government or otherwise.

...It is interesting that the newspapers that have been most closely involved in the transmission of the WikiLeaks files have been high-minded newspapers of the Left, such as The Guardian and the New York Times.

...The damage to the diplomatic process has been disproportionate to the public benefit.

...For the past 20 years there has been very little regulation of the cyber world....Governments will fight back with new regulations.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: wikileaks
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To: AndyJackson

IMHO, this whole incident could be used as the reason du jour to crack down on the evvvviillll internet. Censorship. How convenient.


21 posted on 12/05/2010 8:01:02 AM PST by khnyny (What exactly is a CDO??)
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To: huldah1776
You know, it is so easy to encrypt, that this leak really does seem to be a set up.

I agree, Obama has a motive.....

.....to regulate the Internet to "do something" to stop leaks like this.

WHY didn't the USA jam the website (DOS attack)?

HOW did these leaks get out in the first place?

These leaks will hurt diplomacy because many of the things said and leaked were said in confidence. Now that confidence doesn't exist.

Obama wants to hurt America's place in the world, he has more or less said so.

Obama wants to control people, health care, transportation, energy production, energy use, etc., indicating he is a control freak.

If this was his doing, he HAS further harmed the USA's position in the world and now has the perfect excuse to clamp down on the Internet.

22 posted on 12/05/2010 8:03:03 AM PST by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: AndyJackson; FS11
BO is behind WikiLeaks.

I agree with AJ.

It's not Obama.

Hillary is Secretary of State.
The 'cables' are from the State Department.
PFC Manning is 'gay'.
Hillary is very intimately connected with a network of 'gays' who were 'given' high government posts during the Clinton Admin, and still are in those positions.
There is a growing suspicion that Hillary uses this network of 'gay' spies to get info on her opponents.
Hillary is well known for using 'secret' documents for her own nefarious purposes (FBI files).
So far, I haven't seen any documents surface which incriminate Hillary in any way.

23 posted on 12/05/2010 8:07:56 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: khnyny
IMHO, this whole incident could be used as the reason du jour to crack down on the evvvviillll internet. Censorship. How convenient.

And some conservatives seem to be the ones begging for it. In the last few days I've seen FReepers saying the government should have no secrets which is pure idiocy that comes right out of ANSWER rally chants. On the other hand our govt has a tendency to overuse secrecy. Its not a simple black and white issue and kneejerk reactions will hurt us.

Its not a simple issue but one thing is very clear, we have leaks in our own government and Assange couldn't leak things if they weren't made available to him.
24 posted on 12/05/2010 8:11:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SteamShovel

You know, it is so easy to encrypt, that this leak really does seem to be a set up.
I agree, Obama has a motive.....

.....to regulate the Internet to “do something” to stop leaks like this.

WHY didn’t the USA jam the website (DOS attack)?

HOW did these leaks get out in the first place?

These leaks will hurt diplomacy because many of the things said and leaked were said in confidence. Now that confidence doesn’t exist.

Obama wants to hurt America’s place in the world, he has more or less said so.

Obama wants to control people, health care, transportation, energy production, energy use, etc., indicating he is a control freak.

If this was his doing, he HAS further harmed the USA’s position in the world and now has the perfect excuse to clamp down on the Internet.

22 posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:03:03 AM by SteamShovel


There is no doubt that BO is behind WikiLeakds. Just look at the WikiLeaks info that has been released, starting with Sarah Palin’s emails and think who other than BO had a motive to release this info?

September 2008: Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s Yahoo email account is compromised by a member of Anonymous, an online group of hackers, in the final months of the presidential campaign. Personal emails are posted to WikiLeaks, and questions are raised about whether Palin used the personal account to flout public records laws.

April 2010: A video of a U.S. Apache helicopter killing Iraqi civilians and two Reuters journalists is posted to WikiLeaks. While the U.S. had never denied that the civilians and journalists were killed, the graphic footage of the horrors of war quickly goes viral online.

July 2010: WikiLeaks publishes 92,000 pages of U.S. military memos termed the Afghan War Diaries. Among the dump’s contents are reports confirming that members of Pakistan’s intelligence agency routinely met with Taliban fighters between 2004 and 2009, as well as field notes on mounting civilian casualties throughout Afghanistan.

October 2010: Some 400,000 pages on the Iraq War that the Pentagon called “the largest leak of classified documents in its history” are posted by WikiLeaks. The group’s de facto spokesman, Julian Assange, says the documents show 15,000 civilian deaths previously unreported, as well as numerous instances of abuse of civilians at the hands of Iraqi security forces.

Nov. 28, 2010: Through several mainstream media partners, WikiLeaks releases confidential U.S. diplomatic cables, frank assessment of various American allies, with some incriminating information about U.S. foreign activities. WikiLeaks says the information, to be followed by further releases later in the week, will contain “seven times” as many documents as October release.

Read more: http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/28/a-wikileaks-timeline/#ixzz17Fpsdmlz


25 posted on 12/05/2010 8:28:07 AM PST by FS11
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To: Psycho_Bunny
That can’t be a serious question.

It is a very serious question. The premise is true - Assange did ask the US government to redact the cables. It deserves an answer.

26 posted on 12/05/2010 8:31:30 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: ikka
What people miss, is that governments spy on each other all the time. That a Private in the US military would have access to this info, means that it would be quite easy for a foreign govt that really wanted the info, to get it.

I would be surprised if they hadn't already gotten it.

27 posted on 12/05/2010 8:43:59 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: AndyJackson

“What do you think about a serial killer asking the police for a less painful way of killing?”

The premise is absurd. Why would the US make itself a party to a crime being committed against itself? What, were we supposed to form a commission to study the documents and vote on which were damaging?


28 posted on 12/05/2010 8:45:06 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: UCANSEE2
I have to tell you, I'm sure you are a conservative, but that ruling elite business in this case and the conspiracy deal where everyone knew but us is very DU to me.

I apologize, I know that sounds like a gab, but only the far left and maybe loons on the Libertarian side use that verbiage and think that way IMO. At least the way I was reading it. Sorry!

29 posted on 12/05/2010 8:56:47 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: AndyJackson
Assage is in the business of seeking out people who commit theft of information or espioage in goverment for the purpose of leaking the information out to everyone, including enemies we are fighting wars against.

He is a leaker, not referring to his depends I bet.

He deserves the traditional jail time in Federal prison, death maybe as a sentence if called for or the more discretionary accident.

This person does nothing for us and is working as a spy against us. If you want to hug him that is YOUR business, but if I see him I would help get him to the Feds for his lawlessness.

30 posted on 12/05/2010 9:01:37 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Oh brother. The Media goest to the government all the time with documents and asks that sensitive information be redacted before relase. The government readily cooperates for all the obvious reasons.

Much of Assange's information is unclassified. The government cannot tell him he cannot publish any of it because some of it might be classified.

31 posted on 12/05/2010 9:03:48 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: cripplecreek
Its not a simple issue but one thing is very clear, we have leaks in our own government and Assange couldn't leak things if they weren't made available to him.

The earlier comment on unbreakable encryption says a lot. No accidents here, I'd say.

I agree it is a provocative operation with the objective of internet censorship.

The the only way to stop it is to completely destroy the democrat party and render it impotent, sterile, castrated, inert, and consigned to oblivion which is the fate they want for the United States of America.

32 posted on 12/05/2010 9:12:30 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: AndyJackson

What I smell here is a new crisis! Obama will demand control! Communists want to control your medicine, your travel, what you eat, who you marry, and all your information.

It’s a national security issue! It’s for your safety. We must have gate keepers, to protect us from the dangers of men like Assange. Save us Obama!


33 posted on 12/05/2010 4:21:01 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: FS11; cripplecreek; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
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Just look at the WikiLeaks info that has been released, starting with Sarah Palin’s emails and think who other than B0 had a motive to release this info?

Check out # 10 , # 23 , # 25.

34 posted on 12/05/2010 7:12:08 PM PST by LucyT
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To: A CA Guy; All
I didn't realize until just now that the leaked cables date back to 1966. Where are State Department Records archived? Do they stay in the State Department? NARA? Who would be able to locate all of the file?

Not having any knowledge about anything further than my own laptop, am I to assume that all government information, classified or otherwise, can be accessed by any federal computer?

(Hope it doesn't seem as if I am throwing the questions at you, just typing as they come into my brain)

35 posted on 12/05/2010 7:49:29 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: AndyJackson
It is interesting that the newspapers that have been most closely involved in the transmission of the WikiLeaks files have been high-minded newspapers of the Left, such as The Guardian and the New York Times.

If someone on the right had leaked this information the MSM would have labeled that person a terrorist, and Homeland Security would have already moved in... It's a leftist, so there's lots of posturing.

36 posted on 12/05/2010 7:50:23 PM PST by GOPJ (Christianity: arm of Judaism bringing pagans and heathens to knowledge of the Hebrew God via Christ.)
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To: LucyT; FS11; cripplecreek; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks

Here’s an interesting question: How would we FReepers be rating Manning/Assange if they have the goods of disclosing Barry Soetoro’s real identity,...traitors/heroes???


37 posted on 12/05/2010 10:29:22 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: AndyJackson

That’s a reach and a half.


38 posted on 12/05/2010 10:39:15 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: A CA Guy
Assage is in the business of seeking out people who commit theft of information or espioage in goverment for the purpose of leaking the information out to everyone

Wow! Sounds like an investigative journalist to me. Suppose the NY Times or WaPo did this? Oh wait. They did.

39 posted on 12/06/2010 12:17:45 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: LucyT

Assange > Wikileaks

Wikileaks > Soros’ lawyer (one of them)

Soros’ lawyer (one of them) > Soros

Soros > (former?) Nazi collaborator

Soros > Obama

Obama > Soros

Ergo, (former?) Nazi collaborator is the effective POTUS.


40 posted on 12/06/2010 6:31:33 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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