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Army, Marine chiefs cast doubt on gay service
MyWay.com ^ | 12-3-10 | ANNE FLAHERTY

Posted on 12/03/2010 8:33:34 AM PST by 444Flyer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The top uniformed officers of the Army and the Marines say letting gays serve openly in the military at a time of war would be divisive and difficult, sharply challenging a new Pentagon study that calculates the risk as low.

Their assessment, expected Friday at a Senate hearing, was likely to become political ammunition for Arizona Sen. John McCain and other Republicans fighting to keep Congress from repealing the 1993 law that prohibits gays from acknowledging their sexual orientation. Democrats have promised a vote this month to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" law, although its chances of passing this year were considered dim.

"If the law is changed, successfully implementing repeal and assimilating openly homosexual Marines into the tightly woven fabric of our combat units has strong potential for disruption at the small unit level, as it will no doubt divert leadership attention away from an almost singular focus of preparing units for combat," the Marine commandant, Gen. James Amos, said in remarks prepared for delivery to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

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"If the law is changed, successfully implementing repeal and assimilating openly homosexual Marines into the tightly woven fabric of our combat units has strong potential for disruption at the small unit level, as it will no doubt divert leadership attention away from an almost singular focus of preparing units for combat," the Marine commandant, Gen. James Amos"
1 posted on 12/03/2010 8:33:36 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: EternalVigilance; US Navy Vet; All

“THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635458/posts

“MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635350/posts

“Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636350/posts


2 posted on 12/03/2010 8:35:38 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: 444Flyer

This is just the hate-America left’s way of trying to undermine US troop moral. Has nothing to do with “fairness and equality”.


3 posted on 12/03/2010 8:36:03 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: 444Flyer
I agree completely with Gen. James Amos.Unfortunately It's only a matter of time..


4 posted on 12/03/2010 8:37:12 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: 444Flyer

There’s already 3 times as many homosexual rapes in the military as heterosexual rapes.


5 posted on 12/03/2010 8:37:18 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 444Flyer

6 posted on 12/03/2010 8:38:07 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: 444Flyer
sharply challenging a new Pentagon study that calculates the risk as low.

Correction: sharply challenging Gates', Mullen's and the leftstream media's spin on what the survey results actually stated.

7 posted on 12/03/2010 8:39:13 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: 444Flyer

Put all the queers in the same unit and send them to the fiercest fighting. Repeat as necessary.


8 posted on 12/03/2010 8:40:04 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: 444Flyer
"Gay Service"

"Who ordered the Apple-tinis? You, General?"

9 posted on 12/03/2010 8:41:44 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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No doubt about it. This is an attempt at the complete moral destruction of America’s fighting forces. This is also one more attempt at the beat down and defeat of the morale of our Troops by the slobbering military hating Leftists.

(Just look at the bottom picture of the ‘man’ in pink uniform attached at the bottom of the story on the link.)


10 posted on 12/03/2010 8:46:21 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: 444Flyer

Everyone needs to read the report and watch the testimony themselves.

There were 400,000 surveys sent out. There was a 28% response rate, and the highest responders were from the air force and coast guard. The press keeps reporting the “pro” repeal figures as a percentage of the total military, but THAT IS NOT TRUE! This whole process is being manipulated and lied about in a way that I can only conclude is a calculated attempt to undermine our military capability.

The Dept of Defense Counsel is an Obama appointee, and he keeps pushing for the speedy repeal of DADT because of some nebulous fear that otherwise the courts will do it anyway. That is not true, and the military really didn’t fight all the way the last time this came up. The chances are very good that they would win if the case came to the Supreme Court. Watch the testimony for yourselves. The press coverage is NOT ACCURATE. You will see for yourselves how self-serving a lot of our senior military and Defense Dept personnel are. You can also access the report yourselves on line.

Also—during the testimony it was brought out that the responses from the military “Town Hall” forums and on-line responses were much more opposed to the DADT repealthan what is reflected on the survey responses. This information was rejected by the brass as not statistically reliable.

Watch Mullen and Gates particularly. Their disdain for the junior military troops is particularly evident, especially on Mullen’s part. This is the thanks the troops get for fighting and dying to an extent their senior officers never had to face, although Mullen is trying to portray himself as a war hero.


11 posted on 12/03/2010 8:47:03 AM PST by binreadin
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Just saw your post at 3. Ditto!


12 posted on 12/03/2010 8:48:06 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: binreadin
Thank you.

Mullen is coming across like an elitist who is completely out of touch with the men and women who serve under him. Zero leadership being exhibited here by him. ZERO. Very destructive, but he refuses to see the truth and stand for what is right. From his actions, he would rather kiss the behind of the hand that feeds him.

13 posted on 12/03/2010 8:59:49 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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...it will no doubt divert leadership attention away from an almost singular focus of preparing units for combat..."

This is an expression not just of casual doubt, but of substantial doubt _ if not a conviction - that the very purpose of the military force provided in the Constitution will be seriously degraded. It makes as much sense as allowing hemophiliacs to serve in the infantry.

It also represents something more than a subtle attack on our miitary forces.
The anti-American bomb throwers are on a roll and for the near term appear unimpeded.

14 posted on 12/03/2010 9:47:38 AM PST by frog in a pot (Wake up America! You are losing the war against your families and your Constitution!)
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To: 444Flyer

Here’s some more links: (Will ping this article out shortly)

Ten Reasons to Oppose an “LGBT Law” or Policy for the Military
The Center for Military Readiness ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608259/posts

Senate Testimony: European Militaries Are Not Role Models for U.S.
The Center for Military Readiness ^ | 3/22/2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608228/posts

Rates of Homosexual Assault in the Military Are Disproportionately High
FRC ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608306/posts

In Support the 1993 Law Stating that Homosexuals are not Eligible to Serve in the Military
CMR ^ | July 23, 2008 | Elaine Donnelly
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608370/posts


15 posted on 12/03/2010 4:32:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks. Keep it rolling!


16 posted on 12/03/2010 9:53:24 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: 444Flyer

There’s a reason Bush and the rats threw Peter Pace under the bus and promoted this puffy assclown Mullen. I think it’s because somebody has pictures of Mullen with little boys. (I wonder if Ubama ever bumped into Mullen at Man’s Country? Perhaps they shared a hot tub?)

Pray for America.


17 posted on 12/03/2010 9:59:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 444Flyer

I can’t do much, but I can keep snapping like a chihuahua, so that’s what I do.


18 posted on 12/03/2010 10:02:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: 444Flyer

As an Army guy, let me tell you: they may not be ‘out’, but they’re here.


19 posted on 12/03/2010 10:05:23 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: 444Flyer

Link to a similar article I pinged today. Sheesh, there’s so many lately I could ping out 10 a day just about this.

People need to be informed and do whatever they can. Even writing letters to the editor of their local papers, talking to people they know, whatever.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2636964/posts

Military Chiefs Cast Doubt on Repealing ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’
FoxNews.com ^ | December 03, 2010 | AP/FoxNews


20 posted on 12/03/2010 10:05:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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