Posted on 12/03/2010 4:39:40 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
Event marks war's anniversary
CHARLESTON -- The shots are solely verbal -- and expected to remain that way -- but at least one Civil War Sesquicentennial event is triggering conflict.
The Sons of Confederate Veterans plan to hold a $100-per-person "Secession Ball" on Dec. 20 in Gaillard Municipal Auditorium. It will feature a play highlighting key moments from the signing of South Carolina's Ordinance of Secession 150 years ago, an act that severed the state's ties to the Union and put the nation on the path to the Civil War.
Jeff Antley, who is organizing the event, said the Secession Ball honors the men who stood up for their rights.
"To say that we are commemorating and celebrating the signers of the ordinance and the act of South Carolina going that route is an accurate statement," Antley said. "The secession movement in South Carolina was a demonstration of freedom."
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People plans to protest the event, said Charleston branch President Dot Scott. She deferred further comment to Lonnie Randolph, president of the state NAACP.
"It's amazing to me how history can be rewritten to be what you wanted it to be rather than what happened," Randolph said. "You couldn't pay the folks in Charleston to hold a Holocaust gala, could you? But you know, these are nothing but black people, so nobody pays them any attention."
When Southerners refer to states' rights, he said, "they are really talking about their idea of one right -- to buy and sell human beings."
Antley said that's not so.
"It has nothing to do with slavery as far as I'm concerned," he said. "What I'm doing is honoring the men from this state who stood up for their self-government and their rights under law -- the right to secede was understood."
Antley said, "Slavery is an abomination, but slavery is not just a Southern problem. It's an American problem. To lay the fault and the institution of slavery on the South is just ignorance of history."
Antley said about 500 people are expected to attend the ball, which begins with a 45-minute play and concludes with a dinner and dancing. S.C. Senate President Pro Tem Glenn McConnell, an ardent Civil War re-enactor, is among the actors in the play. The actual ordinance of secession document also will be on display.
Randolph said the state NAACP is consulting with its national office in Baltimore regarding the format of the protests, which also could extend to other 150th anniversary events. "There is not one event that's off the table," he said.
Asked whether there could be good Sesquicentennial events, Randolph said, "If there were a dialogue to sit down and discuss that event 150 years ago and how it still negatively impacts the lives of so many people in this state and around the country, that would be a good discussion, but not an event to sit down and tell lies about what happened and glamorize those people who thought America was so sorry and so bad that they wanted to blow it to hell. That's what they did -- that's what they attempted to do, and we want to make that honorable?"
Charleston is receiving increased national attention as the nation's plans for the Sesquicentennial move forward. This was where it began, with the state becoming the first to secede on Dec. 20, 1860, and firing the first shot on April 12, 1861.
Most of the Lowcountry's Sesquicentennial events have been announced with little controversy -- many involve lectures by respected historians and scholars.
In its vision statement for the observance, the National Park Service said it "will address the institution of slavery as the principal cause of the Civil War, as well as the transition from slavery to freedom -- after the war -- for the 4 million previously enslaved African Americans."
Michael Allen of the National Park Service said he is aware of plans for the Secession Ball but noted that most Sesquicentennial events have found common ground among those with differing viewpoints.
"Now some people might be upset with some pieces of the pie. I understand that," he said. "I think that's the growth of me, as a person of African decent, is to realize that people view this in different ways."
Allen said other Sesquicentennial commemorations being planned will mark events that have a strong black history component, such as Robert Smalls' theft of the Confederate ship Planter and the 54th Massachusetts' assault on Battery Wagener.
"At least what's being pulled together by various groups, be they black or white or whatever, will at least be more broad based and diverse than what was done in 1961," Allen said. "Hopefully, at the end of the day, all Carolinians can benefit from this four-year journey."
Tom O'Rourke, director of the Charleston County Park and Recreation Commission, said Sesquicentennial organizers were fooling themselves if they thought the Confederate side of the story was going to be buried in the observances.
"I think there will be controversy, I think there will be hurt feelings, and I think that as this anniversary passes, we will question what else we could have done to tell the whole story," he said. "But I am OK with all of that. ... I think all discussion is progress."
Read more: http://www.thesunnews.com/2010/12/03/1847335/secession-ball-stirs-controversy.html#ixzz1737LSVRv
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Do you keep yours in a snappy designer purse, too?
Careful, mstar. Next thing you know the Yanks here will be accusing the South of seizing Saint Nicholas to make them be nice and play by the rules. Oh, wait ... we did that already. From the Baltimore Sun, July 2, 1861:
Seizure of the Steamer Saint Nicholas. -- Information was received yesterday that the steamer St. Nicholas, which runs between this port and Washington, was seized on Saturday by Confederates, off Piney Point, at the mouth of the Potomac. She left this city on Friday and stopped at the usual landings. When she reached Point Lookout [Maryland], where a number of passengers got on board, Capt. Hollins, late in command of the U. S. steam frigate Susquehanna, took command and went across the Potomac to Coan river [Virginia], where her passengers landed. Several ladies who were on board were cared for by the Virginians.
A large number of passengers who left this city by the steamer were bound to Virginia, and most of those who got on board at Point Lookout were Virginians, awaiting her arrival. After the passengers were landed at Coan river, one hundred Tennessee infantry and twenty-five sailors were put on board, and the boat, under command of Capt. Hollins, started for Rappahannock [Virginia]. She succeeded in running the blockade, and on her way captured three prizes, one schooner laden with ice, one with coffee, and one with coal all of which were towed up to Fredericksburg. It is reported that one-thousand Tennessee troops are stationed at Heathsville.
The St. Nicholas has run regularly on the Potomac, but was not permitted to stop at any of the landings on the Virginia side. She is one among the best boats running from Baltimore, and of excellent speed.
My wife, our oldest son, and I visited Point Lookout this past summer. Her great-grandfather was a Confederate prisoner at the Union prison there and was known to have died at the prison, although he was not listed in the original Union records as having died there. Reportedly the same thing happened to many other Confederate prisoners whose deaths were not reported in the Union records.
We visited the private Confederate memorial outside of the Point Lookout State Park. The private memorial was set up because Maryland refuses to let Confederate flags be flown in the state park except on one or two days a year. My wife discovered a memorial brick at the private memorial that bore her ancestor's name and Confederate unit. One of his other descendants must have placed it there among the hundreds of similar memorial bricks. Made the trip special for her.
There were a number of plaques at the private memorial that list comments about the prison by some of the prisoners. Here are some of the comments. The plaques list the name and unit of the prisoner who made the comments:
The 1st day of January 64 was so cold that 5 of our men froze to death before morning. ... The 17th was so cold that we all had to lie down and wrap up in our blankets to keep from freezing for we had no wood for a fire.
Our tents were miserable affairs, being full of holes and very rotten. They were of the "Sibley pattern," and into each one of these sixteen men were crowded. In order to lay down at night, the men were compelled to lay so close together as to exclude sleep. ... On the 9th day of November, snow fell and there was not a stick of wood in the camp. The day was bitter cold, most of us were but poorly clad and very few had shoes of any description. ... The supply of blankets was very scant, and "bunks" were unknown. The cold ground was our bed. To add to our discomforts, the tide from the bay occasionally backed into the camp, and compelled those whose tents had been flooded to stand all night.
From Camp Chase we were taken to Pt Lookout and put into open prison without house or shelter. ,,, On the first night in that prison, the guards shot into the prison all around the fusillade lasting 10 minutes. It was like a strong skirmish fight. The guards beat was a wall around the prison. The following morning, we were told the firing the night before was simply a custom when a new lot of prisoners were put in. Some of my company were killed and others wounded.
What a needless waste of a brave life. 20 year old Henry Jackson was young and fighting the war that the stupid secession decision of people like Henry Jackson had given him.
Pretty low even by Coven standards.
Are you saying that Henry Jackson was part of some sort of coven? That’s pretty stupid.
Ha Ha, not.
Do you think the "cause" was worth the lives of men like Henry Jackson? I don't. I have more regard for the lives of Southerners.
You opinion means nothing. I say it was worth it then and would certainly be worth it now.
Don't go projecting your racial insecurities on other people Doofus . Just because your narrow mind thinks southerners are only white doesn't make it so.
If the blacks EVER got off the victim train, they might become a successful part of American society - but dont hold your breath.
You replied:
The same goes for the whiney little southern bitches on this thread.
It looks like you have the racial problem bub.
I don't do race, could care less whether you are black, or not. Jack asses come in all colors under the rainbow.
How do you know if I am white or black? Maybe I am like rustabout, remember him?
Liar.
Who was it brought the term 'cracker' into this conversation?
For what purpose did you do that, other than to project your own racial hostilities?
I set the trap just to see what I would find, in your case, I was not surprised.
You’re being the racist a$$hole not me. Don’t bother responding, you’ve proven yourself now.
Did someone force you into this conversation? [no]
Who was it brought up the term ‘cracker’ in the first place? [you did]
For what purpose did you do that, other than to project your own racial hostilities? [none]
I think we’re done here secession boy.
Wow, that hurt. Must suck being you. Have a Merry Christmas.
mac_truck is full of rage and hostility, most of it being racially motivated. He is so full of hate that moments of levity actually cause him pain. I suspect that the only possibility of him having a Merry Christmas is if, like his sweetheart NS, he spends the entirety of Christmas Eve and Christmas Day venting his fury and anger on the internet with most of his hostility reserved for freedom loving, conservative Southerners. Therefore, if, like myself, you want to have a joyful Christmas, stay away from internet sites such as, FR, Daily KOS, DU, HuffPO and the other sites where mac_truck, punkrr, NS and the rest of the coven gather to burn their crosses.
Wow, so you admit being a race baiter, thats a start.
Happy Kwanza to you too.
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