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Experts: Mystery contrail was from Chinese missile
G2 Bulletin via WND ^ | 11-19-10 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 12/02/2010 2:02:35 PM PST by bigbob

Although the U.S. Defense Department and North American Aerospace Defense Command have speculated publicly that the unidentified contrail of a projectile soaring into the skies off the California coast – and recorded by a KCBS television crew – came from a jet and posed no security threat to the U.S., several experts are raising provocative and disturbing questions about the government's official response, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Two governmental military experts with extensive experience working with missiles and computer security systems have examined the television video and conclude the mysterious contrail originating some 30 miles off the coast near Los Angeles did not come from a jet – but rather, they say the exhaust and the billowing plume emanated from a single source nozzle of a missile, probably made in China.

(Farah is the founder of WorldNet Daily)

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
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To: editor-surveyor

I’m aware of the incident to which you’re referring. FAR more provocative act to launch a strategic weapon from our doorstep.

Whole ‘nother ballgame. I disagree with the notion that it’s exactly the same thing. Pwning a carrier group in cold-war style brinksmanship, while bad, is saying ‘I’ve got a gun- I could have used it.’

Launching a strategic WMD from just off the coast is ramming a loaded .45 into our collective mouth, breaking off teeth in the process.


101 posted on 12/02/2010 6:02:30 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Rokke

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> “Contrails are not politics. Which is why I can post on a thread like this.”

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No, its your job to post disinformation here, so that’s why you can.
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102 posted on 12/02/2010 6:03:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
This is about 6 miles wide. No doubt it's the launch bay for the Mother Ship eh!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/01/article-0-0C4D7E3F000005DC-42_964x561.jpg

103 posted on 12/02/2010 6:04:45 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah

So there were flights in violation of the NOTAMs?


104 posted on 12/02/2010 6:07:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Riley

It was definitely a US missile.

Give up the crapola, huh?


105 posted on 12/02/2010 6:08:31 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

What ‘crapola’?


106 posted on 12/02/2010 6:09:43 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: muawiyah

Childish!


107 posted on 12/02/2010 6:09:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Riley

The crapola of strawmanning a Chicom missile event.

NOTAMs wlouldn’t likely have been issued for a Chicom launch unless it was by consent.


108 posted on 12/02/2010 6:12:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

That’s my WAG. It was a missile plume. It was on a low trajectory to remain within the atmosphere (total fuel burn). It had a WNW heading.

It was almost certainly a Kwaj shot.


109 posted on 12/02/2010 6:16:41 PM PST by Justa
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To: Finny; treetopsandroofs; bigboy; Rokke
Noticed Finny has just moved from citing the Leyvas "VIDEO" and now he refers to "footage".

Seems I finally got through to him about TWO VIDEOS ~ yup, one by the Network and one by the local affiliate and BOTH DIFFERENT. That let Leyvassay it was going both East and West, that it was big and small, that it was a missile and an airplane, and allowed CBS network and local broadcast personnel to fill your minds with mysterious thoughts about it all.

It was both a HOAX, and PROPAGANDA.

CBS tricked people. The only issue remaining is did they do it on purpose, or just stupidly.

There is a series of STILL PHOTOS taken from the original video that clearly showed that this was a contrail ~ you were still able to access them at the CBS NEWS website a couple of days ago.

Take a look.

110 posted on 12/02/2010 6:16:54 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: editor-surveyor
The crapola of strawmanning a Chicom missile event.

Please re-read my posts, with at least some attention to detail this time. I have in no way insinuated that it was anything of the kind.

111 posted on 12/02/2010 6:17:15 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Actually, my job is the Western Regional Coordinator for Chemtrail Spraying and Alien Abduction. I work here pro bono to gather intel on the effectiveness of our pine scented, paranoia inducing aerosols. Based on threads like this, I’d say the boys and I are due a healthy raise.


112 posted on 12/02/2010 6:19:52 PM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: editor-surveyor; Rokke
Right. A missile launched off the coast, that would be politics, and Rokke couldn't post on that. I mean, look, he's such a victim, poor guy, that every single one of his posts had been deleted for almost two years. because he's rocked the boat so much. That must be why they're not showing up "in forum." *rolls eyes*

On the other hand, a mere contrail, now, that's not political. Not this contrail, not any contrail.

I never really gave much credence to rumors of "paid operators with agendas" posting on FR. Until now.

They don't disturb me as much as FReepers I've long admired and have come to regard as kinds of cyber-friends, FReepers who I still believe would be at my back if I needed them, but who have never seen a live missile launch in their lives, that are falling for it hook, line, and sinker, and eagerly gulping down the flattery that the disinformationists feed them that that they're being calm, reasonable, and incidentally much smarter than the average bear. Flattery gets the disinformationists everywhere with some people.

I have said before, and will say again: if it was disputed video of an optical illusion related to something I've only ever seen in pictures and in books, like a tornado or a harsh winter, and FReepers with long-time firsthand experience in those things were sounding warning calls to me that I was being duped ...

... I'd give what they said a hell of a lot more credence than a bunch of goofy nerd techno-overload websites and government officials who said otherwise, especially if it was about national security.

To my way of thinking, that is the calm, reasonable thing.

113 posted on 12/02/2010 6:20:22 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: muawiyah

These people are flat out insane. It’s sad to watch really. To them, we’re a bunch of paid off operatives.

I dunno about you, but I don’t get paid nearly enough.


114 posted on 12/02/2010 6:20:34 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: bigbob

I see the sunset off the SoCal coast, several days each week. From the angle of Newport peninsula/Huntington Beach looking to Catalina Island. Similar angle as the so called “contrail.”

Today there were at least two “contrails.” Excellent sunset, too.

They are jet vapor trails, or exhaust trails. I have seen them for years and years.


115 posted on 12/02/2010 6:25:48 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Finny
Finny ~ two videos ~ same cameraman in the same shirt leaning against the same helicopter and whatever he said was cut up and run in different videos.

He says everything anybody could want.

You must take the time to watch the two and listen to what he really said. If you watch only one you'll never know what he said.

116 posted on 12/02/2010 6:32:07 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, it's instructive. See the interplay of light and dark, and where's the Sun?

People who've never seen wall clouds before could easily be fooled by what it is. I've seen many of them. They still look like I'm too close to the first stage of a Saturn.

These things actually make you fearful ~ and when they are so big and so far away they are SILENT ~

A wall cloud is nothing but ice crystals, water droplets and wind ~ same's a contrail.

One Freeper in an early thread had a shot of a UPS plane with three engines and the contrails swirled together into one contrail that looked as threaded as any Saturn exhaust contrail.

117 posted on 12/02/2010 6:44:42 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Finny

Perfect timing on your last post Finny. Was that chinook you think you see in the Leyvas video painted black? Please say yes. You’re about to bump me and the boys into the next tax bracket.


118 posted on 12/02/2010 6:46:07 PM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: Tolsti2
My agents at Aerospace and the Satellite Service tell me there'll never be enough money for what we do!

That must be why we don't get paid.

We should get these guys to write letters to Department of Air Force for us!

119 posted on 12/02/2010 6:51:00 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Rokke

You forgot butt sniffing.


120 posted on 12/02/2010 7:04:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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