Posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:24 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
It's not a crime to think a certain way. It may not be popular to say it (heck I know it isn't), but thought is not a crime, if the govt plants the seed as was done in Portland. Hate to agree with him on this one, but how many people have ever had an untoward thought toward DC? Thought is not a crime....hate crimes are Unconstitutional, and I believe the Judge is correct that this is too.
Well banning Islam as a religion in America is not going to happen..
I am for summary execution after a speedy trial in a mobile trailer if perps are found guilty of murder such as those 2 in CT.....and you say I belong at DU?
LOL.
Sometimes it seems like we’re importing these problematic people with the intent that they be a slow burning Reichstag fire.
We keep importing them and we the people lose again and again and again.
Did he misrepresent the law? Did he use semantics to change what the law meant?
He didnt sympathize with the kid, he said you cant punish someone for thought crimes.
It would not be entrapment in the kid came to the FBI wanting to blow something up. It would be entrapment if the FBI went to the kid.
If someone was seeking a hit man, then they had the intention of committing a crime. But if you went to someone and offered it without solicitation, it would be entrapment.
But in this case, did the person actually attempt to commit the crime?
I can’t say “I’m going to kill you”. That is assault, and all I’ve done is utter words; or vocalized my thoughts.
If I actually attempt to kill you, using a gun that I don’t know is unloaded, then you are saying I have committed no crime?
I’m not in total disagreement with you, if what you indicate (entrapment) is true, however I’m not aware if entrapment is applicable here.
Sounds to me like he had the intent (He was trying to contact terrorists) but I do agree that our government shouldn’t be facilitating that intent.
I wonder what the cost of simple surveillance would have been compared to an undercover sting operation. Seems pretty expensive for a headline.
This little Sh** (as you call him):
Was recruited by an al Qaeda operative here in the US - http://tinyurl.com/2b7qrmk
Communicated with an al Qaeda operative in Yemen and wrote 3 articles for their Jihadi webzine - http://tinyurl.com/2b3m265
And had his own father report him to the FBI BEFORE the investigation started - http://tinyurl.com/2g92n6p
This makes entrapment a hard sell - in my opinion, of course.
For example, you're a naturalized citizen and you get engaged in the thought crime of TREASON ~ you can lose your citizenship and get deported.
This guy wasn't born here.
You think it’s easy for me to defend him? I would love to execute all jihadists....but we have a Constitution to live by.
I saw it, I have to agree. Never liked these “sting” operations.
Treason isnt a thought crime, it is an actual act. You cant be convicted of a thought crime, at least not yet.
Fine by me. I’ve read the arrest warrant and I’m quite happy for him to have his day in court. I rue the taxpayer expense of course, but if this trial follows precedent - he will end up copping a plea...
But he’s not the poor, innocent babe in the woods lured into a life of crime by the FBI like Truther Judge Napolitano would lead you to believe.
Exit question: Just curious, do you think Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the rest of the 9/11 perps should be afforded the protection of the US Constitution?
Yes.
Not only that but if the guard shoots at him and accidentally kills someone else then the attempted robber can be charged with felony murder.
So why did they teach him how to build a bomb ? That will be a big snag in the case.
With luck, he'll still be convicted and not get out until he's in his late 80's.
Napolitano is a hack. The government didn’t plant the seed. The terrorist wasn’t recruited. They did water the plant after the seed germinated. That’s not entrapment.They should have given him a real bomb and detonated it while he was in transit
So true but the Bamster is seeing to it that even more Muslims than ever are being admitted.
That’s good to know. That changes everything, then. Hang him high! I TRIED to give him the benefit of the doubt, but like the rest of the scum Muslim terrorists, he deserves nothing but our wrath.
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