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It's Official--The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Big Government ^ | November 23, 2010 | Seton Motley

Posted on 11/24/2010 5:58:44 AM PST by PJ-Comix

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To: NY.SS-Bar9

I’m thinkin’ farming regulations, anti-monopoly/anti-trust laws (let the free market sort out competition)...


41 posted on 11/24/2010 7:22:43 AM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: wastedyears
Obozo just keeps fixing things in this country until it becomes so broken that by the time he's finished we'll have to start over, that's his plan.
42 posted on 11/24/2010 7:31:32 AM PST by drypowder
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To: kevslisababy
“Security Theater”. The new catch phrase for the season

It just got popular with the recent TSA outrages. It's been around since Bruce Schneier published "Beyond Fear" in 2003. Note that in a strict sense security theater isn't necessarily bad. It achieves the goal of actual security if the false security still thwarts the bad guys. For example, fake surveillance cameras at stores to deter shoplifters. But I think the TSA is a perfect example of security theater that makes things worse, doing nothing but making people mad and wasting resources.

43 posted on 11/24/2010 7:40:19 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: wastedyears
I understand that a band had a live concert online and was censored by ATT when they made comments about Bush. These guys don't want to be censored by the carriers, but by the government. When the FCC gets it, we will all be hate speakers and homophobes, and the libs will be freedom fighters. Also, ATT seems to have wanted to regulate Skype calls for taking bandwidth or some such thing. This will also get into what data is sent on smart phones, so it's bigger than just blogs and such.

I guess the question is whether or not you are satisfied with the carriers conduct so far, or would you rather have the government "nationalize" the carriers. Hugo Chavez anyone?

44 posted on 11/24/2010 7:52:18 AM PST by chuckles
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To: PJ-Comix
The weird thing here is WHAT is the big “problem” that supposedly exists that has to be rectified by government regulation of our flow of information on the Web? I have posted THOUSANDS of posts without any hindrance for years. Anybody else have such trouble? I think not yet here the FCC steps in to supposedly fix a problem that DOES NOT EXIST.

THAT'S the problem. Information about their misconduct and collectivist legislative CRIMES is getting out. Cockroaches and criminals prefer the dark.

45 posted on 11/24/2010 7:54:56 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: GoCards
Okay so what are we doing about it

The same thing we are doing about TSA molestations, OBAMACARE forced down our throats, etc. BAAAAA BAAAAA

46 posted on 11/24/2010 8:04:33 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: PJ-Comix
Glen Beck should look into this one - I'll bet his favorite villain is passing on the cash on this one...
47 posted on 11/24/2010 8:50:31 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Rule making at federal agencies is governed by the Administrative Procedure Act. If the FCC intended to adopt a new rule at its December meeting, it would have had to issue a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, have gone through the public comment period, and so on. Administrative rules which are adopted without following the governing statutes are void.

Seriously, do you think rules/laws matter to these people? I think we have more than enough evidence to make the case that this isn't the case.

48 posted on 11/24/2010 9:22:50 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Looking forward to kicking Chicago out of Washington.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Seroiusly, if the FCC were to adopt a rule which conflicted with federal law, why would anyone think they had to follow it?


49 posted on 11/24/2010 9:27:02 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: antiRepublicrat

Thats right 0 gave up the rights just after he took office right?


50 posted on 11/24/2010 9:45:26 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You’ll be able to hear Mark Levin on Jupiter.

Right now, you can hear Obama on Uranus.

51 posted on 11/24/2010 9:50:02 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: ColdOne

Nope, nothing’s happened. It is surprising that he didn’t do it in the name of “better relations” with the rest of the world.


52 posted on 11/24/2010 10:01:07 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: goldstategop
They’ll gag every conservative blogger. You’ve been warned!

Only until we regain power. Then they're shut down forever.

(I don't think this is a good thing.)

53 posted on 11/24/2010 4:11:19 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: goldstategop
They’ll gag every conservative blogger. You’ve been warned!

Only until we regain power. Then they're shut down forever.

(I don't think this is a good thing.)

54 posted on 11/24/2010 4:11:32 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: antiRepublicrat
> Pssst. The federal government already controls the Internet. It always has. It only ceded the day-to-day management to a contracted company. Remember the international uproar back when Bush refused to give up control of the Internet? He did that because to give up control could mean entities like the Muzzie- and socialist-controlled UN would have a say in how it’s managed.

There are a few times when maintaining tight control of a mission-critical national-security-relevant resource is a good idea. Not that the current administration represents our best and brightest managers by a long shot. But it beats hell out of the UN or China or Indonesia or some consortium of Islamist radicals. And don't think that wouldn't happen if we give it up...

The internet was originally developed to provide critical communications necessary to defend America in times of attack, and resist damage if hit. It would be foolhardy in the extreme to deny the very real possibility that the internet may yet play a critical role in saving America from her enemies.

55 posted on 11/24/2010 4:46:36 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

So in other words, you aren’t afraid of any net neutrality boogey man at the FCC? My worry is that once the FCC gets its grubby mitts on the internet there will be much deeper interference and regulation. Also it seems to me the mega-ISPs like Comcast and ATT are not so leftist or Democrat. While Google and Apple are big Obama supporters and benefit from net neutrality because they are or will be (Apple TV) in the video streaming business. Those who profit from sending out high bandwidth video streams like Netflix and Amazon might also be big Obama/Democrat supporters.

I am not that opposed to a Comcast or ATT getting some revenue for allowing video streams pass through their “pipes”


56 posted on 11/24/2010 5:05:10 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw; antiRepublicrat; ShadowAce
Much as I am loathe to pull out my flame-proof suit, I have to chime in a bit here:

> So in other words, you aren’t afraid of any net neutrality boogey man at the FCC?

Not nearly as much as I am worried about what happens when content control is changed from the original internet concept of "must-carry -- allow all content to pass" to the NON-net-neutrality concept of "carrier may censor by fee any content they don't want to carry". Like FreeRepublic, for instance.

The original concept of neutrality is what allows the internet to function in its mission-critical national defense role, as the communications network that stays up in event of attack on America. It is absolutely essential that the internet function properly if America is attacked. Net neutrality attempts to PRESERVE that critical functionality.

Non-neutrality, as proposed by the carriers, threatens to destroy the internet. Neutrality is the status quo that makes the internet work, for cryin' out loud. What the "net neutrality" regulation does is guarantee the ORIGINAL purpose of the internet -- to carry all traffic equally without censorship.

Contrary to the prevailing opinion here, what the lack of neutrality can do is block you from conservative sites like FreeRepublic. A lot of people have this upside-down, because they are seeing it from the carrier's perspective, rather than America's or the users' perspective.

Do I like that the government has to act in this way? No, I hate government intervention and regulation. But this is one of those rare circumstances where it is justified.

Minor quibble:

> While Google and Apple are big Obama supporters

You should include Microsoft in that list. Microsoft's actually a much bigger supporter of Obama/Democrats than Apple. Look it up.

57 posted on 11/24/2010 5:26:43 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Non-neutrality, as proposed by the carriers, threatens to destroy the internet>>>>>>>>>>>

Yeah but the reason for carriers push for non neutrality is they want to extract a little toll from the high bandwidth pushers of video through their pipes. Free Republic is as low bandwidth as one gets these days and not a factor for the Comcasts of the world


58 posted on 11/24/2010 6:20:40 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: PJ-Comix; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

When net neutrality hits, I’ll say, “It’s been nice to have known y’all.”

PING!


59 posted on 11/24/2010 7:11:09 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I thought these freaks were told by a court they did not have jurisdiction over the internet.
60 posted on 11/24/2010 7:21:39 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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