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It's Official--The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Big Government ^ | November 23, 2010 | Seton Motley

Posted on 11/24/2010 5:58:44 AM PST by PJ-Comix

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To: dennisw
> they want to extract a little toll from the high bandwidth pushers of video through their pipes. Free Republic is as low bandwidth as one gets these days and not a factor for the Comcasts of the world

What you say is true, but only part of the story.

The REAL story is that they want to charge a toll for content that isn't their own. It's not about video bandwidth -- it's about censoring so that you are forced to watch what your carrier wants you to watch (unless you pay ever-increasing fees for the content you prefer).

That, my FRiend, is censorship.

Now, if you've got your choice of half a dozen carriers, great, choose one who gives you the closest match to the content you prefer.

But what if you only have one or two carriers to choose from (like us out here in the boonies)? And suppose they are a bunch of left-leaning types who don't like providing FreeRepublic to you? You're screwed.

Wouldn't it be better if we kept things the way they are now, which is that you get your choice of ALL content, regardless of carrier?

Don't let the "bandwidth" argument distract you. They lie. It's about the CONTENT, and making sure you watch THEIR content and THEIR ads.

61 posted on 11/24/2010 7:34:32 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Nothing more than your post has to be said on the matter. Nailed.


62 posted on 11/24/2010 8:22:33 PM PST by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: dayglored
They lie. It's about the CONTENT, and making sure you watch THEIR content and THEIR ads.

You are talking about the ISPs here. Right?
If what you say is true then Glen Beck and others bellyaching about the Obama administration's push to get the internet in the domain of the FCC and to foster and keep our current net neutrality....This push is benign. You might be right but I don't trust these snakes. They have some larger schemes cooked up for the FCC once it gets control of the internet. All liberal power grabs start small. Look at civil rights for blacks which started off as a push for equality. Today its a never ending quest to sideline white males. Everyone else has some kind of affirmative action racket going for their little minority group. Even women do and they outnumber males. Not to mention nearly all 3rd world immigrants here are instantly eligible for AA preferences over white natives here for generations, which was a lot more tolerable before the wheels flew off the American economy

63 posted on 11/25/2010 12:53:43 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
> You are talking about the ISPs here. Right?

Sort of. "Internet Service Providers" may include carriers. But not local ISPs, the local company who supplies your DSL or cable to your home. The problem is higher up in the chain.

Part of the problem is the combination of "carrier" with "content provider". It's the content providers who get the advertising, and want only their own content fed to the users.

> You might be right but I don't trust these snakes. They have some larger schemes cooked up for the FCC once it gets control of the internet.

Well, you are correct to be highly suspicious of these snakes, and I certainly share your suspicion.

When the long arm of the FCC starts doing more and more, they I too will raise my voice in protest.

But as far as I can tell, the current reach is just to keep the content providers from slicing up the internet into a bunch of separate fiefdoms which are like little islands, where you get to see only what the owner of your island wants you to see, unless you pay more to see what's on the other islands.

That's not how the internet works, and slicing it up to create these content "islands" will destroy its usefulness.

64 posted on 11/25/2010 1:19:12 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why is this the only place I have heard this?


65 posted on 11/25/2010 10:45:14 AM PST by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: AGreatPer

Could it be because the FCC doesn’t want Americans to know Before It’s Too Late (TM)?


66 posted on 11/25/2010 7:35:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: GoCards
The other side cant be happy either. If we all can agree on something its this?

you are wrong...very mistaken.
..b/c the Government Marxists, already control
the Broadcast / Print Media...& the Schools.
the free / open internet, is about freedom...the flow of information...
"Progressive Elitists" hate that....but you know that.


67 posted on 11/25/2010 8:15:12 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Imam Zer0: DeathCARE, Is my only "health" plan....to hell w/ free enterprise system :^)
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To: PJ-Comix
The weird thing here is WHAT is the big “problem” that supposedly exists

Big Problem that actually (not supposedly) exists.

68 posted on 12/01/2010 9:03:03 AM PST by tricksy
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To: dennisw
I am not that opposed to a Comcast or ATT getting some revenue for allowing video streams pass through their “pipes”

They already get all the revenue to which they are entitled -- FROM THEIR CUSTOMERS. They wish to steal and extort (no lesser words will do) more money from the content providers.

69 posted on 12/01/2010 9:05:42 AM PST by tricksy
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To: dennisw
Yeah but the reason for carriers push for non neutrality is they want to extract protection money a little toll from the providers of content accessed by their customers high bandwidth pushers of video through their pipes their customers have already paid them for.

Fixed it for you.

70 posted on 12/01/2010 9:11:08 AM PST by tricksy
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To: dayglored
More to the point, it's about the cable and phone companies using a government-granted monopoly to extract more money from everyone in reach. (After all, there wouldn't be a problem if there were a half-dozen sets of phone and cable lines running through your town -- if one providers tries to rip you off via non-neutral net access, you'd be able to switch. Because the government gave the companies monopoly franchises, you can't do that.)

It is, in fact, the anti-neutrality faction that supports Big Government corruption.

71 posted on 12/01/2010 9:13:45 AM PST by tricksy
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To: Steely Tom
The Republicans in congress had better do something about it in January or they'll never win another national Presidential election and they'll lose the House in 2012.

The republicans had better do something about ALL the rogue agencies in the federal government. FCC, EPA, NEA, DOJ, EEOC - and many, many more. They have unconstitutional powers as it stands now and need to be drastically restrained or eliminated.

72 posted on 12/01/2010 9:25:13 AM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: tricksy
They wish to steal and extort (no lesser words will do) more money from the content providers.

Netflix stock is up 273% year to date. I have zero problem with Comcast getting a big bite out of that revenue stream since more and more of it comes from streaming movies. From bouncing gigabytes of mostly mindless data around the WWW. If you like streaming movies then Netflix should take it out of your hide when Comcast charges them. Why should I subsidize you? I have blazing fast (20mb) Comcast and I never stream movies and don't want to subsidize those that do

73 posted on 12/01/2010 12:47:48 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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