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What Happens if You Decline a Full Body Scan?
aol ^ | Nov 15th 2010 | Fran Golden

Posted on 11/17/2010 3:47:25 PM PST by george76

When you ask a friend to join you for a nice weekend cruise from Miami, you don't expect the friend to be hauled away by Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agents into a private room where she says she was practically strip-searched. But that's what happened at Logan International Airport in Boston...

I looked over to the adjacent security line and saw to my horror my red-faced friend questioning TSA officers after she was chosen at random for, and refused to go through, a full body scanner.

My pal happens to be a Boston media personality and crime reporter, Michele McPhee. She is not a shy lady. When this tough blond makes up her mind she makes up her mind. There was no way she was going to be convinced to do a body scan if she didn't want to.

So instead, she opted for a pat down and was whisked away, barefoot, by two women - a TSA officer and her supervisor - to a private room, where McPhee says a very intrusive body search was conducted.

"They run their hands inside your leg and under your bra strap and patted the front of my breasts," she says. "If someone had done that to me at a nightclub I'd call the cops."

"People need to know why we need body scanners," she says. "The humiliation of walking across a crowded, dirty terminal in bare feet, escorted by two TSA agents, dragged into a room and essentially assaulted, I really did leave mad."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.travel.aol.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bodyscanner; scanner; tsa; tsapervs
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To: combat_boots

“This is setting up the RFID chip.”

That is the point that people start dying.


61 posted on 11/17/2010 5:20:11 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: dusttoyou
Just like the Isrealis, PROFILE. If you look like a terrorist or are from a terrorist country or have spent time in a terrorist country, scan or feel em up everyway from Sunday. The rest of us, metal detect and explosive sniffer is OK. No more NO SHOES or TINY LIQUIDS.

Do you have any idea what goes on Israel?

62 posted on 11/17/2010 5:22:39 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: catbertz

“a “Trusted Flier” program, utilizing some kind of marking or device,”

Another easily defeated program. Fools always think they can use technology to defeat the committed.


63 posted on 11/17/2010 5:24:56 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: null and void
TSA focuses on keeping dangerous things off of airplanes. El Al focuses on keeping dangerous people off of airplanes.

That being the case, how much different do you think the security process is in Israel?

Do you think a white male from America is waved through? Is that what you think profiling is?

64 posted on 11/17/2010 5:27:28 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
Do you have any idea what goes on Israel?

Same thing that goes on in Memphis, Chicago, or Detroit, but with better weapons.

65 posted on 11/17/2010 5:28:39 PM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: Doe Eyes

Do you have any idea what goes on Israel?

Guess not, fill us in.

Do know that they don’t have bombers on their planes.


66 posted on 11/17/2010 5:35:22 PM PST by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Foc nobama)
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To: chris_bdba

Write your local state and federal congress members. CC them all and the TSA. Explain your problem. Visit the local office so the staffers if not the elected representative can meet you directly. And see you as a real life flesh and blood soul.

Your civil rights are being violated. Take action of some sort, doesn’t have to be anything more than phones and email — but don’t STFU like the goons are telling folks to do.


67 posted on 11/17/2010 5:35:28 PM PST by bvw
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To: meyer
Same thing that goes on in Memphis, Chicago, or Detroit, but with better weapons.

No, more like the same thing plus an interrogation by Security Personnel designed to crack terrorists.

I have been through this every time I fly out of Tel Aviv. Not because I look like an Arab terrorist, but because this is what profiling is. It is an interrogation process designed to detect terrorists.

The first time, I was questioned while my luggage was inspected for over an hour.

Is this OK?

68 posted on 11/17/2010 5:39:00 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: jnsun

Good questions. The answer is fear linked magically to the planes of 911. That fear is used as a lever to exploit by those of exploitative bearing and nature.

People have to break the fear. Be realistic — highly realistic — about what what are the real dangers, where they are, how likely they are. As your questions do make make strikingly obvious — the danger of an aircraft bomber is way overplayed, irrational levels of fear rule many people’s thinking on this issue.


69 posted on 11/17/2010 5:41:22 PM PST by bvw
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To: Doe Eyes
No, more like the same thing plus an interrogation by Security Personnel designed to crack terrorists.

My apologies - I was thinking in terms of the criminal/terrorist mindset, which in many ways is similar between groups like the Palestinians and some of the inner-city youths. In terms of air security, I know that it's much different.

70 posted on 11/17/2010 5:42:09 PM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: dusttoyou
Do you have any idea what goes on Israel?

I believe that had I told those Israelis that were searching and questioning me that if they "touched my junk I would have them arrested" I would have been looking for alternative transportation out of Israel.

71 posted on 11/17/2010 5:48:46 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: doc maverick

Well doc, us dummies who “bitch” are a lot smarter than idiots like you who love the gestapo so much. Rub up against them and kiss them one for me on your next date.


72 posted on 11/17/2010 5:52:23 PM PST by Luke21
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To: george76

This is EXACTLY what happened to me a few years ago when “the wand” went off at crotch level due to a bodysuit I was wearing with snaps between my legs. I was whisked into a “File Room” with two large gorilla types who literally had me take my pants to my ankles and the bodysuit unsnapped and up to my neck. I literally stood there stark naked with a gloved hand up my crotch. It was one of the most horrific things I’ve ever experienced. And this was a number of years ago in Chicago!!


73 posted on 11/17/2010 6:02:20 PM PST by battletank
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To: doc maverick

You know you would have a point if it weren’t for the fact that EL Al has the best airline security on the planet. But it does not resort to groping, petting or committing unlawful sexual acts of its passengers.

In light of that verifiable information your position is ludicrous—unless, of course, you enjoy being groped in public.

Oh, and why does El Al have such a great record? I’m sure that question must be on the tip of your tongue. It is successful because it targets people who fit the terrorist profile—which goes way beyond someone appearing to be middle eastern. Choosing randum grope victims does not constitute a proactive and effective anti-terrorist protocol.

If your opinion is taken to its logical conclusion airline passengers should also be given laxatives. Why? Because we know that swallowing explosives or biological/chemical substances is being actively pursued as a delivery system by the Jihadis. Drug couriers already do it.

This TSA nonsense has nothing to do with airport security. It has everything to do with Marxist population control.


74 posted on 11/17/2010 6:02:39 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: Slyfox
...the people running the machines are not radiologists or trained technicians.

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Exactly why this is illegal. See the OSHA rules for x-ray exposure standards and monitoring. This is like the gov't saying it's okay for a taxidermist to perform surgery. It's insane.

75 posted on 11/17/2010 6:06:00 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: null and void

LOL Good one!


76 posted on 11/17/2010 6:26:44 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Doe Eyes

No, we scan the obvious suspects. People who look as if they might be muslims. It’s so simple.


77 posted on 11/17/2010 6:30:52 PM PST by altura
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To: catbertz
Airport CLEAR card program makes a comeback

June 23rd, 2010

Remember the CLEAR registered traveler program? Those who shelled out $179 per year got a special bio-metric membership card, which provided access to exclusive, shorter security lines at 21 airports across the country.

While CLEAR won the hearts and wallets of its customers, it struggled with debt and demand and abruptly shut down last June.

In recent months, a new company called Alclear announced an agreement to purchase the assets of the old company (Verified Identity Pass) and crank the operation back up.

Alclear’s first move was to update the www.flyclear.com web site, which had been dormant. The revived site encourages previous, new, or just curious travelers to fill out a form and vote on which airports where they’d like to see the service.

However, it does NOT state which airports it intends to target for the re-launch. (Prior to shut down, CLEAR operated at ATL.) Don’t get your hopes up yet. The new company has to sign all new airport agreements, a process which could take quite a while. The site says, “We are in discussions with multiple airports to re-introduce CLEAR,” but does not mention any airports by name. However, Denver is rumored to be the re-launch airport sometime this fall.

The site’s FAQs also state that the new company will honor previous members’ remaining membership terms as of June 2009. (For example, those who had three months left in their term will get three months free membership.)

In what appears to a bungled first step, this week Alclear sent out a confusing and unwieldy email (two full pages, 1200 words) to former members. The gist of the tome was to ask those former members who DO NOT want back in to send the new company a letter (via snail mail) asking to “opt-out” of the new program and have their data destroyed. (Here’s the full email.)

Anyway… I was a former member of CLEAR and must admit that the service paid for itself, but not because it actually saved me all that much time. As an elite level member of several frequent flyer programs, I already had access to shorter, faster security lines.

What CLEAR did was remove the uncertainty from the airport screening process– at ATL as well as in other airports that don’t have special elite lines, or those that have unpredictable wait times. To me, as a frequent business traveler, that kind of peace of mind was worth $179.

78 posted on 11/17/2010 6:37:23 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

I can understand how much frequent fliers would love this. Anyway to avoid all the nonsense is worth the price.


79 posted on 11/17/2010 6:59:32 PM PST by catbertz
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To: Doe Eyes
Guess that depends if you resemble a camel jockey. If not, disappointedly you probably would not get felt up.
80 posted on 11/17/2010 7:11:55 PM PST by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Foc nobama)
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