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Top Aviation Journalist Is 100% Convinced That The "Missile" Was A Jet
Business Insider ^ | November 9, 2010 | Joew Wisenthal

Posted on 11/09/2010 4:39:10 PM PST by lbryce

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 800; californiamissile; contrail; errantmissile; flight800; missilemystery; mystery; mysterymissile; tinfoilbrigade; twa800; twaflight800
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To: lbryce

I have conclusive proof that it was a North Korean missile. Who else could miss an entire continent from 35 miles away?


81 posted on 11/09/2010 6:09:06 PM PST by Conan the Conservative (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: TexasCajun

That’s not the video. It’s the same news broadcast filled with STILL shots. There is a one-second view on the middle of the video, but I’d love to see the actual original video that had everyone thinking it was a missile.

Do you know where I could find the video?


82 posted on 11/09/2010 6:14:35 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: bgill
About 30 seconds into the video there is an aircraft off to the right with no contrail behind it.

Contrails only form when the moisture level of the air at the altitude the plane is cruising at is near saturation. Add the water vapor from the exhaust and a few particulates, at low pressure and temperature, and it will condense into an ice cloud. Missiles don't leave 'contrails', they leave trails of combustion products (smoke) which aren't dependent on atmospheric conditions or altitude. The video clearly shows a column of smoke, its source is accelerating away from the camera to about 20 or so degrees right of the viewer's zero.

83 posted on 11/09/2010 6:24:44 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: The Comedian

George Noory will explain it all...


84 posted on 11/09/2010 6:26:58 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: The Comedian

Alright. Your sources have me convinced. Without having been able to see it and judge it with my own eyes, I’m willing to believe it’s very probably a jet contrail.

I think there’s a quality about the video that leaves some doubt, mainly the density of the plume that we see and its seeming proximity to the ground. But I’m no longer so certain as I was.


85 posted on 11/09/2010 6:30:27 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Seven plus One

Your explanation seems reasonable to me, too. I thought that’s what we were seeing in the video, too. But since the footage I’ve seen is second generation and I’m never able to see it in its entirety—nor watch where the object ultimately travels to—I’m willing to concede enough doubt that it’s probably a jet contrail.


86 posted on 11/09/2010 6:34:26 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Seven plus One

Agreed. I was merely commenting on someone else’s post about no other contrails (if it was a contrail which obviously it isn’t) being in the area.


87 posted on 11/09/2010 6:34:44 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: CodeToad

heh. heh. I agree.. I am NOT impressed.


88 posted on 11/09/2010 6:39:39 PM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: hflynn
China, Pakistan, US?

US visiting India, for what purpose? Pakistan has three or more stealthy, missile subs - a warning to not connive with India to violate Pakistan's boarders?

China showing it can and will project serious power - if the US continues its reckless brazen theft of debt holders?

Whatever, unless a total accident by Russia or the US or space Aliens, it is an exceedingly serious and purposeful incident.

89 posted on 11/09/2010 6:43:34 PM PST by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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To: All

According to the CBS news web site a sergeant at Vandenberg stated there was a launch Friday night of a Delta 2 rocket. Well, I was watching for it that night and there was no launch. But I was on my roof Monday night at 7 PM and there was a launch from Vandenberg because I saw it clearly. So were there two missile launches at around the same time? Or is this some communications screw up?


90 posted on 11/09/2010 6:54:54 PM PST by DHerion
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To: Conan the Conservative

“I have conclusive proof that it was a North Korean missile. Who else could miss an entire continent from 35 miles away”

Lol! Winner!


91 posted on 11/09/2010 6:59:17 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: lbryce
FAA Launch Notice To Airmen (NOTAM)

KZLA LOS ANGELES (ARTCC)PALMDALE, CA.
A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE - FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010
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NOTAM Request for Accountability or Location: KZLA and NOTAM Number: A2832/10

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The NOTAM does not exist.

FAA removed NOTAM, You SEE nothing, there is nothing here for you move along.

For those having trouble parsing the NOTAM, the times are GMT for noon today through tomorrow evening. If there were surface combatants in the area that could certainly be the source of the missile, and the fact that the Pentagon is still saying “Uh, we don't think it was us” would seem to indicate it wasn't a planned launch for daylight hours.

92 posted on 11/09/2010 7:02:51 PM PST by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: lbryce
You expected more verbosity? Its a freakin' twitter!

I watched the videos, and I was 100% convinced that it was NOT a jet contrail, but some sort of missle launch.

Until I read this website: Contrailscience.com

It was a jet. Case closed.

93 posted on 11/09/2010 7:03:28 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
Until I read this website: Contrailscience.com It was a jet. Case closed.

I agree. I read everything on that site a few months ago. Very educational. I think the majority of the people here on FreeRepublic are going to remain skeptics though, just like the chemtrail believers whose arguments he blows to shreds with evidence and logic on his site.

94 posted on 11/09/2010 7:15:31 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Yo-Yo

Not when I saw the news source as Twitter. When I first read the article headline ‘Top Aviation Expert 100% Convinced the “Missile” was a Jet’ I had expected, would have liked for a bit more in the way of details about the incident.


95 posted on 11/09/2010 7:19:41 PM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: lbryce
Twitter Breaking news is highly suspect. Lots of Libs/Socialist/Communist trying to generate false news. Just be careful with it.

At any rate... Just look at the video. There is no question its some type of rocket/missile and not an airplane. LOL!

96 posted on 11/09/2010 7:20:06 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: cgbg

Its too big to be that. Have you seen the video of it?


97 posted on 11/09/2010 7:20:53 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: TexasCajun

Could be China, Iran or North Korea firing a Submarine launch ICBM off our “Port Side” (aka Los Angeles) to warn us not to mess with them.


98 posted on 11/09/2010 7:25:55 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Tolsti2

No it looks like a Submarine launch.

I would be careful about throwing around the word “Conspiracy”. You have been brain washed by our government to mock people on evidence that could make the government look really bad. So I have to ask you the following questions.

1) Did the Nazis conspire against the Jew to exterminate them?
2) What about 1918 World Series?
3) What about many murders in our country that involves more than one person and its covered up.

All I am saying is do not be so dismissive and buy the government line. The government plans stuff all the time.


99 posted on 11/09/2010 7:32:14 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Yaelle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_c85e6A5EY

Here is a CNN vid...maybe this will help?


100 posted on 11/09/2010 7:46:01 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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