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Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast
CBS News ^ | 11/9/10 | CBS

Posted on 11/09/2010 8:05:31 AM PST by Gennie

(CBS) A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught by CBS affiliate KCBS's cameras Monday night, and officials are staying tight-lipped over the nature of the projectile.

CBS station KFMB put in calls to the Navy and Air Force Monday night about the striking launch off the coast of Los Angeles, which was easily visible from the coast, but the military has said nothing about the launch.

KFMB showed video of the apparent missile to former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Robert Ellsworth, who is also a former Deputy Secretary of Defense, to get his thoughts.

Scroll down for KFMB video showing the launch.

Video here

"It's spectacular… It takes people's breath away," said Ellsworth, calling the projectile, "a big missile".

Magnificent images were captured by the KCBS news helicopter in L.A. around sunset Monday evening. The location of the missile was about 35 miles out to sea, west of L.A. and north of Catalina Island.

A Navy spokesperson told KFMB it wasn't their missile. He said there was no Navy activity reported in the area Monday evening.

On Friday night, Vandenberg Air Force Base, in California, launched a Delta II rocket, carrying an Italian satellite into orbit, but a sergeant at the base told KFMB there had been no launches since then.

Ellsworth urged American to wait for definitive answers to come from the military.

When asked, however, what he thought it might be, the former ambassador said it could possibly have been a missile test timed as a demonstration of American military might as President Obama tours Asia.

"It could be a test-firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine … to demonstrate, mainly to Asia, that we can do that," speculated Ellsworth.

Ellsworth said such tests were carried out in the Atlantic to demonstrate America's power to the Soviets, when there was a Soviet Union, but he doesn't believe an ICBM has previously been tested by the U.S. over the Pacific.

Officially, at least, the projectile remains a mystery missile.


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To: Lazamataz
Thanks. I realize I'm grasping at straws trying to figure out a reason we need 34 Navy ships, and a gigantic retinue over there with him. We have that, and then we get this strange launch.

Before this launch a lot of people were speculating that something was going to happen during Obama's grand tour... and it sure did.
561 posted on 11/09/2010 11:57:57 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: WaterBoard
I see no matter what anybody posts, you refuse to open your eyes to facts. I am done conversing with you.
Right.
562 posted on 11/09/2010 11:57:57 AM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: cruise_missile

IS THIS A WARNING FROM NORTH KOREA ABOUT THE G-20 SUMMIT THAT IS GOING TO BE IN SOUTH KOREA THIS WEEK?


563 posted on 11/09/2010 11:59:29 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: wideminded
1. One guy out of the hundreds of thousands watching cable news is the only one who noticed that the rising nose graphic appeared a mere 5 minutes into the original coverage instead of weeks or months later and that the top secret National Security Agency were kind enough to put their name on it. Or ...

It was on for a few solid seconds, and I literally marveled over it.

This was a little pre-widespread-internet, so I would understand a relative lack of contemporaneous mention.

And believe me, in the heat of action, things can happen that you didn't intend -- like a failure to remove a logo. I never did see that logo/watermark again. There was no graphic logo, just NSA - National Security Agency

I saw what I saw, dude. No amount of trying to convince me otherwise, will work.

564 posted on 11/09/2010 11:59:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: _Jim
Funny, none of the PILOTS in the air lanes that night behind TWA800 made those kinds of statements ...

At least one pilot did ... his flight was inbound to either JFK or Laguardia out of Boston. He was over eastern LI just a few miles from TWA Flt. 800 ... he reported seeing a missile plume arching up towards the aircraft. This pilot was also a reserve Air Nat'l Guard pilot.

565 posted on 11/09/2010 12:00:09 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: AppyPappy

Yeah add that Oprah was in her 757 with Travolta piloting to go pick up MO because BO told her she looked fugly in her vintage dress and Oprah farted and accidentally sent off the test missle and the missle landed in the ocean and met with her huge fart bubble and the bubble then created a new planet for all liberals to move too.


566 posted on 11/09/2010 12:00:51 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Beale would have tracked this. 456th Bomb Wing 1966-1968, 9TH SAR Wing as well.


567 posted on 11/09/2010 12:01:37 PM PST by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: GeronL
Still puzzling over that time...one post thought it might be GMT time...but 7 hours difference doesn't fit...either...

.Cheez..what a mystery...

568 posted on 11/09/2010 12:01:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: _Jim
Not at all, _Jim!

The PAVE PAWS coverage area is immense!

Here is a map of it (I was at the 6MWS, Cape Cod AFS):


569 posted on 11/09/2010 12:01:49 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must-like men-undergo the fatigue of supporting it)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Google Jack Cashill on TWA 800.


570 posted on 11/09/2010 12:02:05 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: BluH2o
At least one pilot did ... his flight was ...
Wrong; mis-attribution, faulty memory wishful thinking on your part (have debated and debated this issue over the years and no one has what you purport.)

Recommend go back and re-read the NTSB interviews w/pilots ...

571 posted on 11/09/2010 12:02:48 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: StolarStorm

That may be true. However, if SOMETHING were to happen, you’d think it’d be something more than a missile contrail that no one can explain and the impression of the entire US military scratching their heads.

This accomplishes nothing. No ‘credible threat’, no reason to ramp up the military readiness levels, just a bunch of people going “WTF just happened?”.


572 posted on 11/09/2010 12:03:11 PM PST by hoagy62 (.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks- that’s what I thought too.

I’m wondering why the news/cables aren’t covering this more extensively- they’re chatting about lots of other “news” and it doesn’t feel as though they’re holding back.

This is one of those times when nothing matches ..


573 posted on 11/09/2010 12:03:13 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: hoagy62

“A foreign power launched off our coast and caught us with our pants down.”

That is possible.

“One of our own subs lit one off accidentally.”

People say it takes nothing short of a major conspiracy on board.

“Some goofball built a rocket and launched it without FAA approval.”

Sure, he did that from his own missile-launching submarine; but for some extra fun he decided to launch not from his private Pacific island but right here. /s

“Our nutso White House occupant was trying to send a message to someone.”

Not likely at all. Pentagon would know all about it, and the notices would be sent to other countries ahead of time. Obama doesn’t need secrecy or excuses for a training or a test launch. Besides, the “message” that has been sent is not very good for the USA.

IMO there are only two plausible options. First, it was a legitimate but poorly planned test launch from a US submarine. Second, it was an act of war by some foreign power (probably not China or Russia - with their ICBMs they don’t need such cheap tricks.) Without knowing more, a miscommunication within the US Navy seems to be more likely.


574 posted on 11/09/2010 12:03:20 PM PST by Greysard
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To: ncfool

ANOTHER SUBJECT:I saw on local NC news this morning that the usual “SONIC BOOM” could happen anytime. The weather man was actually warning about it.


575 posted on 11/09/2010 12:04:50 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Greysard

The Evil George Soro’s........

Sure, he did that from his own missile-launching submarine; but for some extra fun he decided to launch not from his private Pacific island but right here. /s


576 posted on 11/09/2010 12:04:56 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: SE Mom

No way.

I mean seriously. NO WAY an ICBM c=could “accidentally” be launched.

The whole point of a Boomer is to launch these things with out being detected before reaching its launch window. It takes a WHOLE crew to launch them. Not just one guy leaning up against a console button. It does not work that way, isn’t set up even remotely like that.

Anyone buying that BS story doesn’t know shit about how a Boomer runs. My husband served as an E6 on one in the 90’s. Has an Admirals Commendation, switched out a Nav Gyro for heavens sake, and THAT is a no BS exercise right there. One mistake on any sub can sink it. Boomers are designed so that one man, or even two cannot launch the missiles. The whole crew would have to believe 1000% that this was a legitimately ordered launch. That does NOT happen on accident.


577 posted on 11/09/2010 12:05:40 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Greysard

Here’s one: Some homer made his own rocket and launched it.


578 posted on 11/09/2010 12:05:50 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: _Jim
Jim, here is another pair of NOTAMs from jcs.mil... could they be related?

M0327/10 - NAVAIR SURFACE LAUNCH MISSILE TEST IN R-2519. AIRCRAFT, MEN AND EQUIPMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO REMAIN CLEAR OF AREAS SOUTH OF TAXIWAY A-2 SOMETIMES DURING THIS PERIOD. MISSION ESSENTIAL FLIGHT REQUIRING TRANSITIONS THROUGH THE RESTRICTED AREA SHALL CONTACT POINT MUGU RANGE CONTROL (805-989-8280 OR 306.6) FOR DECONFLICTION. 09 NOV 22:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 09 NOV 15:17 2010

M0325/10 - NAVAIR SURFACE LAUNCH MISSILE TEST IN R-2519. AIRCRAFT, MEN AND EQUIPMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO REMAIN CLEAR OF AREAS SOUTH OF TAXIWAY A-2 SOMETIMES DURING THIS PERIOD. MISSION ESSENTIAL FLIGHT REQUIRING TRANSITIONS THROUGH THE RESTRICTED AREA SHALL CONTACT POINT MUGU RANGE CONTROL (805-989-8280 OR 306.6) FOR DECONFLICTION. 09 NOV 16:00 2010 UNTIL 09 NOV 20:00 2010. CREATED: 09 NOV 15:14 2010

579 posted on 11/09/2010 12:06:08 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (“The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Greysard

this was either a test launch goof up or an act of war that is being downplayed by the government.


580 posted on 11/09/2010 12:06:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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