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N.Y. House race back in play for GOP

Posted on 11/05/2010 8:09:08 PM PDT by Chet 99

By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 11/5/10 8:34 PM EDT

Another New York House race was suddenly back in play amid ongoing vote-counting today, as a recanvass of the ballot machines erased a 3,400-vote deficit for Republican Randy Altschuler in New York's 1st District and vaulted him nearly 400 ballots over Democratic Rep. Tim Bishop.

It's the second House race in New York in a week in which a large deficit was suddenly reversed as new totals came in, or as the machines were gone over again. Altschuler, a self-funding businessman who ran on a fusion ticket of both the Republican and Conservative Party lines, is now up 392 votes, his campaign spokesman Rob Ryan confirmed.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44769.html#ixzz14T256LY3


TOPICS: US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; randyaltschuler; timbishop
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1 posted on 11/05/2010 8:09:10 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99
A recount (recanvass, whatever . . ) that actually helped a Repub? Someone in the elections office will surely hang for this mistake: ("No, no!! You were supposed to erase Altschuler's votes!!")
2 posted on 11/05/2010 8:15:28 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: Chet 99
...a recanvass of the ballot machines erased a 3,400-vote deficit for Republican Randy Altschuler in New York's 1st District and vaulted him nearly 400 ballots over Democratic Rep. Tim Bishop.

Does anyone know how an electronic machine reports total vote casted? Does someone read the numbers like in the old lever machines and then call them in? Is it done automatically via the web or secure phone line?

Is there any security to prevent "stuffing" the machine with last minute ballots?

How can it under-report one day and then the next day report a different number?

When I take money out of an ATM, I can immediately go online and see the money withdrawn from my account. Why can't these machines immediately report a total at the close of polls?

On Tuesday in St. Louis, I had a choice and picked optical scan ballot. At least there is a physical record.

3 posted on 11/05/2010 8:20:44 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: Chet 99

Want to bet that the Rats “find” a bag or box of uncounted ballots in the back of some Rat official’s car?


4 posted on 11/05/2010 8:21:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: HapaxLegamenon

I was the technical election judge at an Illinois polling location. Voters had their choice from two voting options - optical scan paper ballots, or touch screen.

In both cases there was a paper record of the vote. The touch screen machine prints the voter’s selections and the printed out selections can be seen by the voter on a tape visible through a window to the side of the touch screen. A physical verification could be conducted on each of the individual touch screen ballots.


5 posted on 11/05/2010 8:28:28 PM PDT by saltshaker
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To: Chet 99

In the mean time Demonrat officials have found uncounted boxes of ballots (naturally mostly Democrat; aren’t they always?) in at least three house races. I think one is in NC; don’t recall where the others are.


6 posted on 11/05/2010 8:28:36 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: HapaxLegamenon

When I take money out of an ATM, I can immediately go online and see the money withdrawn from my account.”

Our bank has a “new fangled system”. No deposit slip, just key in your account number and start feeding checks. Out pops a deposit slip with a pic of each check on it and the amount of the deposit. Really a timesaver for small businesses. Money out shows up on your online account within 2 seconds of withdrawal but money in takes a couple of business days. The point being if ATM’s can do all of this, so can voting machines. This is like the issue of FEDEX can track a small package or envelope while it is going around the world but we can’t find someone whose visa has expired. Government inefficiency versus private business efficiency.


7 posted on 11/05/2010 8:29:46 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Another thing about voting machines. One would presume that voting machines should be faster than optical scan or punch hole ballots. (For the record, I actually like the punch hole ballot, they were much faster than optical scan and didn't require a working pen. When I voted at 6:00am in St. Louis, I was the only one there. I had my pick of booths. None of the booths had working pens).

Here in the MO 3rd, Jefferson County areas using exclusively optical scan reported earlier than the last 6 precincts of South St. Louis County which used mostly machines (one can always request an optical scan).

In any case Ed Martin (R) from optical scan regions was way ahead. Then at the last moment, areas that had machines reported last and put Russy Carnahan over the top. Why didn't machine areas report first???

8 posted on 11/05/2010 8:37:40 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: saltshaker
The touch screen machine prints the voter’s selections and the printed out selections can be seen by the voter on a tape visible through a window to the side of the touch screen.

What do you do if a voter says that the tape doesn't match the votes he just casted?

Is there a random audit of the tape to see if it matches the total the machine gives at the end of the night?

9 posted on 11/05/2010 8:42:55 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: Chet 99
I still like the way we vote here in my town - paper and pencil with ladies of both parties and other poll watchers at open tables - no where to hide bags of boxes of votes to be "found" -

not to mention, when you have enough polling places open to keep it ‘in the neighborhood’ - everyone pretty much knows everyone - so if a dead person tries to vote, someone will say: “Hey, Joe. You can't vote. You died 10 years ago.”

10 posted on 11/05/2010 8:49:44 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Chet 99

Okay — some Union thug didn’t sabotage the machines right. If this race goes to the Repubs, that poor dude is gonna end up at the bottom of the Hudson.


11 posted on 11/05/2010 8:50:36 PM PDT by patriot preacher
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Long Island East End is a lot of farmers, winery owners, fishermen, and small businesses. Union folks would be LIRR workers, Verizon,and some SEIU types, but I don;t know if they would be SEIU of a similar union for supermarket workers and the like. It was in Tim Bishop’s district that the first town hall raged. It went viral on YouTube and.


12 posted on 11/05/2010 9:05:08 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: HapaxLegamenon; June K.
How can it under-report one day and then the next day report a different number?

Supposedly this new-fangled paper voting system (which is really a step backwards) was gonna cure all electoral ills. We can thank Algore 2000 for this mess .. if not for his damn 'chads' with hysterical old liberals in Florida, we would still have those wonderful mechanical levers here in New York.

Everyone I've talked to about it agrees ... the newfangled paper ballots suck. Bring back the oldfangled mechanical lever machines.

Algore the Kook can add this little fiasco to the list of his crimes against humanity .....

13 posted on 11/05/2010 9:13:27 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Chet 99

bump


14 posted on 11/05/2010 9:27:22 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: HapaxLegamenon

” Why didn’t machine areas report first??? “

Why ask? You already know the answer.


15 posted on 11/05/2010 9:39:06 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: jeffc

No doubt. It’s a small miracle...a recount and close contest that actually is going the GOP’s way. But give it time. Suddenly 2000 ballots will show up from some Democratic enclave somewhere.


16 posted on 11/05/2010 11:06:53 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: HapaxLegamenon

In the rush of election night, returns from machines or precincts may be double counted or missed entirely due to human error. That is why election night returns are considered unofficial. The more careful and less hectic official count a day or two later often results in revisions to the unofficial election night count.


17 posted on 11/05/2010 11:43:23 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Want to bet that the Rats “find” a bag or box of uncounted ballots in the back of some Rat official’s car?

Yep, and amazingly, ALL the votes will be for the dem. Wait for it... wait for it... 3...2...1....

18 posted on 11/06/2010 2:46:59 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: MissesBush
No doubt. It’s a small miracle...a recount and close contest that actually is going the GOP’s way. But give it time. Suddenly 2000 ballots will show up from some Democratic enclave somewhere.

Guaranteed. The GOPer will not be allowed to win. It's not arranged that way.

19 posted on 11/06/2010 2:48:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: luvbach1
In the mean time Demonrat officials have found uncounted boxes of ballots (naturally mostly Democrat; aren’t they always?) in at least three house races. I think one is in NC; don’t recall where the others are.

Several "boxes of ballots" were "found" in Bridgeport, which denied Foley the victory in CT. Also, the same is happening in House races in Texas and California. Until people start serving serious prison time for voter fraud, this crap will continue.

20 posted on 11/06/2010 2:53:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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