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CA: Huge Solar-Plant Project Approved ( near Blythe )
Wall Street Journal ^ | OCTOBER 26, 2010 | CASSANDRA SWEET And SIOBHAN HUGHES

Posted on 10/26/2010 9:24:58 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A proposal to build the world's biggest solar-thermal power plant in the Southern California desert got the go-ahead Monday from the Obama administration, which used the announcement to bolster its message that renewable energy creates jobs.

The $6 billion project is being developed by Solar Trust of America, a joint venture between Germany's Solar Millennium AG and privately held Ferrostaal AG on 7,025 acres of federally owned land near Blythe, Calif. The approval clears the way for the developers to seek federal grants and loan guarantees.

The Obama administration has been criticized over the past year for hurting job creation by holding up coal-mining permits and suspending deep-water drilling in the Gulf of Mexico after the worst offshore oil spill in U.S. history.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: blythe; boondoggle; ca; caenergy; corporatewelfare; energy; ferrostaal; fraud; germany; green; porkulus; solar; solarenergy; solarmillennium; solarpower; solartrust; solartrustofamerica; welfareforgermany
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1 posted on 10/26/2010 9:25:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; Marine_Uncle; blam; SunkenCiv; ...

fyi


2 posted on 10/26/2010 9:26:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

approved, for now, until some leftist org decides they want to stop it

for no other reason than they don’t want people using energy.


3 posted on 10/26/2010 9:27:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A German company?

Why not a USA company?

EPA & Greenies drove that sector of business offshore, also?


4 posted on 10/26/2010 9:28:07 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The estimated cost of the first two units of the Blythe plant is $3 billion.
5 posted on 10/26/2010 9:28:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If an energy source requires taxpayer subsidy, it is not a viable energy source.

Solar power didn’t work in Spain, I can’t see it working any better in the US.


6 posted on 10/26/2010 9:29:33 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I hope it doesn’t harm the fragile desert terrain that is damaged for a thousand years by a single footprint


7 posted on 10/26/2010 9:32:34 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Solar Millennium AG.............. Germany? That means German Engineering, German Manufacturing, German Pumps, German electric motors.

The Solar Project awarded last week had $12,000,000 worth of pumps on it, this one should have more then that.

This should have gone to a USA company. A project of this size would employ hundreds of Engineers for the design phase alone.

8 posted on 10/26/2010 9:33:08 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: ridesthemiles

Solar power, like ethanol, is not a ‘business’. It’s better understood as a welfare scheme. Your tax money is being used to feather-bed this useless parasitic project.


9 posted on 10/26/2010 9:33:13 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

” of federally owned land near Blythe, Calif. The approval clears the way for the developers to seek federal grants and loan guarantees. “

Okay - so Obama gives ‘em the land, and then gives ‘em the money to build it — and they get to send the profits back to Germany???

Move along, folks - nothing to see here....


10 posted on 10/26/2010 9:33:48 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: ridesthemiles

It’s not just a German company the partner is majority arab owned. Got this from there web site:

“The majority of the shares of Ferrostaal is held by the International Petroleum Investment Company from Abu Dhabi (IPIC – 70%). MAN AG, Germany, is a minority shareholder (30%).”

Here is the link: http://www.ferrostaal.com/index.php?id=31

got to the page for key information.

Once again he shows that he cares about foreigners more than American’s.


11 posted on 10/26/2010 9:34:01 AM PDT by jimpick
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This sounds like it is modeled after the solar power plant that DOE sponsored at Daggett California....


12 posted on 10/26/2010 9:37:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: jimpick

This piece of crap scum bucket in the white house wants to make us dependent on foreign companies for our power so that they can control the United States. He is the biggest threat to the freedoms that Americans have.


13 posted on 10/26/2010 9:39:07 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: jimpick

How is it that the idiot left can complain about Walmart takeing all the money from a area and sending it out yet not complain when a foreign owned company does the same thing.


14 posted on 10/26/2010 9:42:01 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: Michael.SF.; jimpick

Of course, even if the contracts had gone 100% to American workers it would still be a huge waste of money.

The Government is trying to pick winners in the power industry using the power of subsidy and tax money - like it is trying to do in the automobile industry. I hope no-one is ok with this.

The fact that the taxpayer money for this boondoggle will end up with Siemens and other German Gmbhs is a detail. They’re publicly traded companies: for all we know they probably have a higher % of American owners than Germans.


15 posted on 10/26/2010 9:42:32 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: agere_contra

“The Government is trying to pick winners in the power industry “
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Exactly the Government does not have the right to steal a persons personal money to fund anything. It’s even worse that they are giving it away to strengthen foreigners control on the U.S.


16 posted on 10/26/2010 9:47:47 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I smell democrats and RINO's.....


17 posted on 10/26/2010 9:51:28 AM PDT by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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Wikipedia:

Solar power plants in the Mojave Desert

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This may be the project:

Ivanpah Solar Power Facility

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The Ivanpah Solar Power Facility is a proposed 392 megawatt (MW) solar power facility which would consist of three separate solar thermal power plants in south-eastern California. The facility would consist of fields of heliostat mirrors focusing sunlight on boilers located on centralized solar power towers. The boilers would generate steam to drive specially adapted steam turbines. For the first plant, the largest ever fully solar-powered steam turbine-generator set, using a 123 MW Siemens SST-900 dual-casing reheat turbine, was ordered.[1] The first phase of the Ivanpah facility is scheduled to begin construction in late 2010 and finish in 2012.[2] Final approval was gained in October 2010.[3]

The proposed project would occupy about 4,000 acres (1,600 ha) near Interstate 40 near the California-Nevada border, north of Ivanpah, California and would be visible from the adjacent Mojave National Preserve, Mesquite Wilderness, and Stateline Wilderness[4]

Presuming it can get its permits and financing in time to begin construction by the end of 2010, it would receive a $1.37 billion loan guarantee from the U.S. Department of Energy — the largest offered to a solar project. The total cost of the project has not been disclosed.[5] BrightSource has contracts to sell about two-thirds of the power generated at Ivanpah to PG&E, and the rest to SCE.[6]

18 posted on 10/26/2010 9:53:05 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Michael.SF.

Suddenly everyone worried this isn’t a U.S. company....As thousands of our companies, entire industries across America long since moved to Communist China...


19 posted on 10/26/2010 9:55:15 AM PDT by dragnet2
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Now ...about Brightsource:

Brightsource Energy's Ivanpah solar power plant gains final clearance

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Construction on the plant in the California desert near the Nevada border is expected to begin in the next few weeks.

By Tiffany Hsu, Los Angeles Times

October 8, 2010

Brightsource Energy Inc. on Thursday cleared its final permitting hurdle for its proposed solar power plant. It expects to begin construction in the California desert in the next few weeks.

The federal Bureau of Land Management approved the Oakland company's Ivanpah Electric Generating System project, set for remote San Bernardino County near the Nevada border.

With a $1.37-billion loan guarantee from the Department of Energy, the project could be one of the first local commercial solar plants to break ground in years. The 370-megawatt installation will involve 173,500 mirrors that focus solar energy on central "power towers" to create steam inside, driving electricity-producing turbines.

Pacific Gas & Electric Co. and Southern California Edison have already signed up to split the power, enough to light up nearly 278,000 homes, the Bureau of Land Management said.

20 posted on 10/26/2010 10:01:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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