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Bill would allow M1 Garands, M1 carbines to be imported
Little Chicago Review ^ | October 20, 2010 | NA

Posted on 10/22/2010 3:11:47 PM PDT by neverdem

Washington, D.C. – A couple weeks ago, U.S. Representatives Cynthia Lummis and Joe Donnelly (D-IN) introduced H.R. 6240, the Collectable Firearms Protection Act. The bill would prevent the State Department from interfering with the legal importation of surplus collectable firearms from South Korea that were originally made in the U.S.

“The State Department does not have the authority to deny legal firearms to law-abiding citizens. These firearms have historical value, are legal, and their importation is already highly regulated by the Justice Department. There is no basis for State Department involvement. This is not about diplomacy or foreign policy -- this is a domestic issue and a Second Amendment issue,” Lummis said.

“The right of law-abiding American citizens to import these historical firearms should not be complicated with unnecessary over-regulation,” said Donnelly. “This common-sense change simply lets the Justice Department do its job and removes the State Department from the process.”

Background

Last year, the administration approved the importation and sale of collectible, American-made M1 Garand rifles and M1 carbines from South Korea. However, the administration reversed itself early this year, deciding instead to prevent these rifles -- legal to make and purchase in the United States -- from entering the country.

The State Department’s actions undermine the will of Congress, which has expressly authorized these types of transactions in the Arms Control Export Act. H.R. 6240 would remove jurisdiction by the State Department and the Department of Defense over these imports, which are already regulated by the Justice Department through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE).

These collectable firearms would still be treated like any other modern, legal firearm, including BATFE licensing requirements, record keeping requirements, and background checks prior to retail sales.


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To: crazydad
"Bingo I want a Carbine, have my Garand and its the most accurate gun I have ever shot with out a scope!"

If they allow importation, I'll probably get one of each. The "blockade" by the State Department is completely out of order, and an overstepping of its authority. I'm surprised there is no lawsuit (or lawsuits) pending, but passing an actual law is probably as good or better than a judge's decision.

41 posted on 10/23/2010 6:48:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Jonah Hex

Myself, I’d like to get a P-14.


42 posted on 10/23/2010 7:12:40 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wita; woerm

from your lips to God’s ears.

BFL


43 posted on 10/23/2010 7:20:16 AM PDT by woerm (student of history)
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To: OldPossum

“Thompson 1927A-1”

Drool..... I’m jealous.


44 posted on 10/23/2010 8:04:19 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: tacticalogic
"If everyone else has one yours may not be worth as much, but your chances of getting to keep it will be a lot better."

Quote of the day!

45 posted on 10/23/2010 10:03:17 AM PDT by norton
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To: Roklok
You can never have to many Garands.

Actually, one or two are sufficient - but you can never, ever, have too many clips for the ones you have.

46 posted on 10/23/2010 10:05:52 AM PDT by norton
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To: neverdem

I wonder if some Congress critter or Senate critter will add a killing amendment to the CPFA like the Hughes Amendment with FOPA in 86.


47 posted on 10/23/2010 10:36:26 AM PDT by wastedyears (Know this, I will return to this land... rebuild where the ruins did stand)
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To: neverdem
"Someone must have tried it as a handgun round. I wonder what happened?"

That "someone" was a guy named Bill Ruger...

...Ruger's .30 carbine Blackhawk..."


48 posted on 10/23/2010 10:45:14 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: neverdem; Brucifer

One Garand in every hand...


49 posted on 10/23/2010 12:16:21 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: neverdem
The M1 Garand uses .30-06 Springfield ammo.

I'm pretty sure there are some .308 Garands also.

50 posted on 10/23/2010 12:28:41 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: taxcontrol

I have a hunch that there will be a lot of International Harvesters in this bunch.


51 posted on 10/23/2010 12:55:01 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: nitzy

As of today, Realclearpolitics has the Repubs with 220 seats plus the tossups. They need 219 to control the House. The House should begin the next year investigating the Dept. of State and Holder’s execrable DOJ.


52 posted on 10/23/2010 1:04:00 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: neverdem
wow a DEMOCRAT actually doing something pro-gun??

Ok, what strings are they gonna attach to this bill? I've come to expect from them that if they give an inch here they will want a MILE somewhere else, usually when and how it wont be readily detected by a casual observer.

53 posted on 10/23/2010 2:21:29 PM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: omega4179

Is that the M1 carbine .30 cal which my dad trained with c. 1960? I believe they also had full-auto versions...


54 posted on 10/23/2010 3:02:06 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: Jonah Hex

The reason why you see so many 1917 conversions is this:

When a custom gunsmith customer wants a rifle in some Monster Magnum chambering, the Mauser 98 has limitations. Specifically, once you get to something longer than, oh, a .375 H&H or a cartridge fatter than a .404 Jefferies, the Mauser starts to “run out of metal.”

Not so on the 1917. That thing has enough metal to allow it to be chambered in some calibers usually intended for flak cannons. eg, the .577 T-Rex. The 1917 is a huge, strong action, and the people who want absurdly large calibers in custom guns really have few other choices for a conversion.


55 posted on 10/23/2010 4:03:06 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: rahbert

I don’t doubt that the barrels are shot out and the wood is trashed.

The receivers should be in good shape tho, and that’s about the only thing that a rifle smith would have trouble making. The Garand receiver would be a tricky thing to produce, even for a well equipped gunsmith.

About the easiest way to make a Garand receiver today would be to start with heat treated 4140 steel and use a CNC wire edm machine to whittle away at it.

And, as you say, the importation of these rifles would create jobs. A smarter POTUS would say “I’m helping create XXX jobs for Americans in the gun industry!”

But no, they’ll never do that - whether Republican or Democrat.


56 posted on 10/23/2010 4:09:31 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: crazydad

I did some post-recruit training with the M-1, but the rest of my late 60’s USMC enlistment was with the M-14 — I SO wanted to snatch one of those when I got out.


57 posted on 10/23/2010 4:12:19 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: HospiceNurse

Collectors can tell which M-1 Carbines were exported/imported.

What manufacturer is yours? I have a friend that has at least one of each AND the Garand D!


58 posted on 10/23/2010 6:42:53 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

I don’t have a carbine.


59 posted on 10/23/2010 7:38:05 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: woerm

from your lips to God’s ears.

Dang, if that is the option, I’ve got quite a few more agencies beginning with the BATFE and probably ending with the education dept. There will be some unemployed, but a much smaller and defanged federal leviathan.

Then, all that will be left is the defunding of every single non profit, grant writer, and leach in the pocket of the people. Like NPR, the Ad Council Foundations galore, etc etc.

The end result, a return to astounding surpluses, conservative and Constitutional governance.


60 posted on 10/24/2010 6:23:02 AM PDT by wita
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