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Soldier says ordered to delete Fort Hood videos
AP ^ | 10-15-2010

Posted on 10/15/2010 9:35:23 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

FORT HOOD, Texas – A soldier who recorded the terror of last year's deadly shooting rampage in Fort Hood using his cell phone was ordered by an officer to delete both videos, a military court heard Friday.

Under cross examination, Pfc. Lance Aviles told an Article 32 hearing that his noncommissioned officer ordered him to destroy the two videos on Nov. 5, the same day that a gunman unleashed a volley of bullets inside a processing center at the Texas Army post.

The footage could have been vital evidence at the military hearing to decide if Maj. Nidal Hasan should stand trial in the shootings. The 40-year-old American-born Muslim has been charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

Prosecutors have not said whether they'll seek the death penalty if the case goes to trial.

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1 posted on 10/15/2010 9:35:25 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

High up the food chain did this order go?


2 posted on 10/15/2010 9:37:50 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: My Favorite Headache
his noncommissioned officer ordered him to destroy the two videos on Nov. 5
Demote the noncomm to Private, and send him to duty in Northwest Alaska.
3 posted on 10/15/2010 9:38:13 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

We can’t have him screaming “Allah Akbar” being captured on film, can we?


4 posted on 10/15/2010 9:38:21 AM PDT by Carling (Remember November)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Accomplice, or just an idiot?


5 posted on 10/15/2010 9:38:21 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Are videos allowed of military bases in general?


6 posted on 10/15/2010 9:38:52 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I know an illegal order when I hear one, and I would have told the NCO absolutely no way am I ‘deleting this’.

But thats just me.


7 posted on 10/15/2010 9:39:04 AM PDT by Badeye (I can see NOVEMBER from My HOUSE.)
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To: sam_paine

Are videos allowed????

Every cell phone is now a video camera. How could they prohibit videos?


8 posted on 10/15/2010 9:40:46 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: My Favorite Headache

Post it to youtube, send it to friendly media sources, back it up to flash drive, put it in a safe deposit box.....then delete it.


9 posted on 10/15/2010 9:41:10 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Badeye

Besides, what the worst that can happen? An Article 15?


10 posted on 10/15/2010 9:42:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Why did he comply? Was it a Army-issued cell phone? 1st Amendment applies here, imho. He should have refused the “order”, which should never have been given. the officer should be disciplined.


11 posted on 10/15/2010 9:43:30 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: Badeye

Surely there was a follow-up question. Tell me that the witness was asked “Did Sgt X say why you were to erase the video? And if so, what did he say?” Either this question was asked and not reported, in which case the reporter is a blockhead, or it wasn’t, in which case the lawyer is.


12 posted on 10/15/2010 9:43:43 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: My Favorite Headache

BTW, I believe that was an illegal order. Officers and NCOs have no charge over privately held property of enlisted soldiers. Just sayin.


13 posted on 10/15/2010 9:44:17 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: My Favorite Headache
Sneakyman Inc. is being exposed by the very technology they help create.
14 posted on 10/15/2010 9:45:43 AM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Since when can noncomms issue legal orders?


15 posted on 10/15/2010 9:47:34 AM PDT by FrankR (You are only obligated to obama to the extent you accept his handouts.)
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To: Badeye

It seems to me that tampering with or destroying evidence of a crime is usually considered a crime in itself.

An order to commit a crime would seem to be an unlawful order.

IANAL


16 posted on 10/15/2010 9:47:39 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Hasan was with Obama.

“Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition”

Hasan and his protectors are with al Qaeda.

Hasan's protectors helped him rise, "educate", have seminars,
murder, commit treason and support jihad. (The new DADT?)


17 posted on 10/15/2010 9:48:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I could understand confiscating it and handing it to the MPs, but ordering deleted is destruction of evidence of a crime. Stupid on every level.

was ordered by an officer to delete both videos, a military court heard Friday.

Odd wording. I know the official term for ranks E-4 and above is "non-commissioned officer", but usually officer by itself refers only to commissioned officers of rank O-1 and above.

18 posted on 10/15/2010 9:48:17 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! Oot piffoo blaboo...)
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The footage could have been vital evidence at the military hearing to decide if Maj. Nidal Hasan should stand trial in the shootings.

Which is exactly the reason the non com gave the order. But...from whom did he receive his orders from?

19 posted on 10/15/2010 9:48:43 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Give me a secret. Bring me a sign. Give me a reason to walk through fire.")
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To: ArrogantBustard

That’s what I am thinking too.


20 posted on 10/15/2010 9:49:01 AM PDT by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies.)
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