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LTC Lakin's Appeal Denied
U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals ^ | 10/12/10 | Clerk of the Court

Posted on 10/13/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

On consideration of the Petition for Extraordinary Relief in the Nature of a Writ of Mandamus and Application for a Stay of Proceedings, the petition is DENIED.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; certifigate; corruption; doubleposttexan; eligibility; jamese777; kangaroocourt; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin; trollbuckeyetexan; trollcuriosity; trolljamese777
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To: CanaGuy; butterdezillion

Ahem - CanaGuy - have you read butterdezillion’s blog? No? I would suggest you do so to save yourself more embarrassment. Butterdezillion not only knows probably more than anyone (besides the criminals at the DoH in HI) but she also knows more than she has even made public.

You, OTOH, are merely revealing your ignorance about the topic. I’m being gentle and giving you the benefit of the doubt. Read her blog, and then you will see that she knows what she is talking about.


401 posted on 10/14/2010 10:00:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: OneWingedShark

Placemark.


402 posted on 10/14/2010 10:11:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Mr Rogers; rxsid
“So you’re for a strict reading of the Constitution regarding the Right to Keep and Bear arms, regardless of what courts are saying; yet opposed to a strict reading of the Constitution in regards to the qualification for the President. Gotcha.”

Nope. I’m saying the original intent of the Founders in writing that the President must be a “natural born citizen” is met by Obama if he was born in Hawaii. There is no doubt that under English common law, Obama would qualify as a ‘natural born subject’, and that is the concept the Founders were thinking of when they wrote “natural born citizen”.

Original intent. Not mine, but theirs.

Perhaps you should read this post, by rxsid before making that claim.

403 posted on 10/14/2010 10:12:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Your terms are as obscure as your legal thought. I’m guessing you are saying that after all is said & done, Lakin will be released or pardoned by a Republican President because Obama will be found ineligible to be in office.

Your legal thoughts are always willy-nilly just as your interpretation of who constitutes a natural born citizen under the US Constitution. Here it is more concisely.

All legal maneuvering and appeals have to be exhausted by LTC Lakin;

And to include time for a possible pardon by the next president, whether he/she is a Democrat or a Republican. The bet will only go on for about half of the presidential term that starts January 20th, 2013 until December 31st, 2014.

If Lakin's conviction is not overturned by December 31st, 2014, or he has not received a pardon, I'll pay FR $100 dollars.

If at anytime from now to December 31st, 2014 that LTC Lakin has his sentence overturned or he is found not guilty or he is pardoned by the President, you pay $100 to FR.

404 posted on 10/14/2010 10:15:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jamese777
You dishonestly tried to make it appear that Judge Lind was pushing the date of the Lakin Court martial back for her own reasons. I merely pointed out that you weren’t stating facts.

Dude, how many times have I corrected your BS over the last year? More times than I remember. You throwing around the word 'dishonesty' is laughable.

405 posted on 10/14/2010 10:18:06 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Better Question: How many times have you corrected his BS on *this thread*?


406 posted on 10/14/2010 10:19:59 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Check and mate is right.

Judge Lind knows the orders originate with the CINC and go down the chain of command. She is, after all, obeying the orders of the alleged CINC in everything she does. She knows where the orders come from and she knows what will happen to her if she disobeys.

That’s why she’s ignoring and refusing to take judicial notice of what everybody knows because they’ve been trained in it, just like that Army Study Guide you quoted shows.

That’s why she’s making her own admitted inferences about what constitutes a lawful order (i.e. if it is required to be obeyed we may infer that it is lawful) rather than actually citing the elements of Article 92, which say something totally different and are supposed to be legally binding. There’s no need for inferences when the language is clear.


407 posted on 10/14/2010 10:22:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: little jeremiah

The vote of confidence means a lot especially today. Thanks.


408 posted on 10/14/2010 10:24:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: jamese777
I prefer to read the blogs that are set up for discussions among military JAG officers and civilian attorneys who practice in the military courts.

I've seen what goes for "legal thought" over there and much of it is Obot troll thinking.

A case in point:

"[BirtherReport.com: To the 4 Obot blogs; How does that CROW taste!?] "

The American Patriot Foundation is pleased to announce that LTC Lakin has repositioned his forces, has retained new legal counsel, and is extremely grateful that the Foundation will be dedicating the critical next few weeks before his planned court-martial on November 3-5, to focusing entirely on public affairs, strategic communications/messaging and coalition-building and that their support will continue seamlessly as the new attorney prepares for trial.

The website of the Foundation is being re-designed to reflect this new focus and emphasis. Contrary to the impression left by some blogs and internet commentary, LTC Lakin is consistent in continuing on the same path that he announced publicly six months ago when he released his first YouTube video-- and consistent with his military training, to continue to request assurance from Pentagon leadership that his military orders, including his deployment orders to Afghanistan, are legal-- authorized at the highest level by a Commander-in-Chief who is Constitutionally eligible, per Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution. As a medical officer and not a lawyer or Constitutional scholar, LTC Lakin is not laying claim to be the sole arbiter of the President's Constitutionality in attempting to determine, without any genuine evidence to make such a determination, the President's "natural born" citizen status. The burden of proof rests solely on Barack Obama to demonstrate to the American people and to the U.S. Armed Forces that he commands, that he is lawfully serving in his current capacity as head of the Executive Branch of the federal government.
...."

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/press-release-october-4-2010-foundation.html

409 posted on 10/14/2010 10:32:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LucyT; Red Steel; butterdezillion

#336 - hey, when did this info appear??

I like it.


410 posted on 10/14/2010 10:39:16 PM PDT by bitt ( Charles Krauthammer: "There's desperation, and then there's reptilian desperation, ..")
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To: bitt
#336 - hey, when did this info appear??

I like it.


You can read the 3 page Brief at Scribd:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38601003/CONNERAT-OBAMA-Confession-FILED-in-Federal-Court

411 posted on 10/14/2010 10:45:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: butterdezillion
The vote of confidence means a lot especially today. Thanks.

We take you sometimes for granted Butter. We think of you as the 'Rock of Gibraltar.' :-)

412 posted on 10/14/2010 10:59:11 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
WOW, I just popped in for a quick peek & short break from garment pattern alterations that have to be done by 2moro eve. THANKS for the PING! Guess this break will be longer than I thought. Shhh... don't tell anyone.
413 posted on 10/14/2010 11:33:54 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: butterdezillion

Anyone dissing you like that is either a fool or a troll. End of story.


414 posted on 10/14/2010 11:35:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Mr Rogers
If someone is leading an army of fools, he needs to ask himself why only fools follow him?

"The world is full of zanies and fools.. Who don't believe in sensible rules. And don't believe what sensible people say... And because these daft and dewy-eyed dopes keep building up impossible hopes --impossible-- Things keep happening everyday."

Let's see if anyone knows where that came from.
415 posted on 10/14/2010 11:53:41 PM PDT by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than four years now-- But I think about it every day.)
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To: little jeremiah; butterdezillion

“Anyone dissing you like that is either a fool or a troll. End of story.”

They could be both.


416 posted on 10/15/2010 12:05:52 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Under English common law, Obama is a natural born subject of Great Britain.


417 posted on 10/15/2010 12:08:47 AM PDT by edge919
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To: malkee

Rodgers and Hammerstein, “Cinderella.” 1965 TV version.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057950/


418 posted on 10/15/2010 12:24:55 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Red Steel

Deal.


419 posted on 10/15/2010 1:28:18 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: OneWingedShark

I’ve read that post. It has spread BS for at least the 6+ months that I’ve debated on the birther threads. The problem is that it ignores what the Supreme Court has said, and replaces it with an unnatural interpretation. It ignores the fact that NBC was not found in any translation of Vattel until 10 years AFTER the Constitution was written, and that no one following Vattel would have used the phrase. “Natural born” is an odd wording, and it certainly is not derived from ‘natural’ or ‘indigenous’ - the words used by Vattel.

Had they written that the President must be a ‘natural citizen’ or an ‘indigenous citizen’, the case would have been much stronger. But they wrote “natural born citizen”, and I think the Supreme Court has already written at length about what the Founders had in mind when they inserted that phrase into the Constitution.

It also tries to suggest that the French phrase ‘sujets naturels’, translated NBC, means the word “naturels” by itself means NBC. However, the Supreme Court argued that Natural Born SUBJECT, a well known phrase of English common law, is what the Founders were thinking of - and yes, the French phrase ‘natural subjects’ would reasonably translate into NBS for the British, or NBC for America, if the Supreme Court was correct.

It even distorts SR 511, pretending it supports a requirement for two citizen parents when it does so ONLY for someone born OVERSEAS.

That sort of dishonesty may be required for birthers, but it will not cut the mustard when someone steps into court.


420 posted on 10/15/2010 1:42:54 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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