Posted on 10/10/2010 8:21:55 AM PDT by Qbert
Smelling blood after a Jerry Brown associate used the word whore in connection with Meg Whitmans campaign strategy, Republican sources have provided a 15-year-old video of the Democratic gubernatorial hopeful dismissing mammograms in an old interview.
The trip to the vault comes as Browns camp has been on defense after The Los Angeles Times reported on a conversation between him and an associate, inadvertently left on a police union officials voice mail, in which he discussed Whitman and the unions and suggested shell cut a deal over pensions. Another person is heard on the recording saying, What about calling her a whore?
Browns campaign manager apologized, but it comes as Whitman is making an aggressive play for the female vote, who some of her supporters see as turned off by the whore flap.
Brown, California's Democratic governor from 1975 to 1983 and the current state attorney general, is seeking to return to his old job. Whitman, former chief executive of eBay, is the GOP nominee.
The comment about mammograms came during an episode of Firing Line in October 1995, when Brown was a guest on the William F. Buckley Jr. show. He sat alongside feminist and commentator Susan Estrich during a discussion about government regulations that dealt with the death of the Clinton administration health reform proposal.
Estrich discussed the component of the plan that had dealt with mammograms. "Can we get off of mammograms? Brown interjected. I mean, first of all, if you read the Lancet Magazine in July, there's no statistical evidence that mammograms help anyone at any age. So it's July 1995, Lancet Magazine. Okay? It's there. Now I don't want to argue that case, he added, as Estrich started to object. I just want to throw it out there."
Former Delaware Gov. Pete du Pont interrupted, "But you ought to have the option if you think they're going to help you, if you think they're going to help you, you ought to have the option of having one."
Brown replied, Ten thousand women, three women will be saved for one year."
The abstract from the Lancet Magazine article Brown mentioned discussed a study questioning the efficacy of mammograms, mostly in the context of a push for public funding.
Mammograms have been a standard method of screening for breast cancer for about 30 years. Last year, the Obama administration released suggested new guidelines, saying women in their 40s dont need to get mammograms routinely, and that theyre more effective after age 50. A major national debate ensued, and the discussion was tabled, although not resolved.
A Nexis search about Brown and mammograms reveals little over the past 15 years, other than a December 1995 piece in which he talked about a new radio show he was hosting and his ability to talk about a lot of different topics. In the interview, with Whole Earth Review, Brown bemoaned the culture of the quick-hit on TV and radio, and the lack of context topics get. The show allows me to study things I normally wouldn't get into, and to put people on the air who have something to say. I've done shows, for example, with Jennifer Harbury, Bill Kunstler (now deceased), and the Michigan Militia, and shows on the lasting damage air pollution does to human health, on toxic-waste incinerators, on the natural rate of unemployment, on the medical propaganda behind mammograms and prostate screening, he said. I include a wide spectrum of people and topics that go against the grain, and I like that.
Asked for comment, Brown spokesman Sterling Clifford said, That is indeed what (the Lancet story) says. The debate about the effectiveness of various cancer screenings has been going on for years.
He added, Fifteen years ago, as a radio host, Jerry participated in discussions about it. He never said, don't get screened for cancer, he never said the government shouldn't pay for cancer screening. And while this clip is about mammograms specifically, he also talked about prostate cancer screening at times, so trying to make this a gender issue is a bit silly. Jerry Brown opposes cancer in all cases.
Asked if he believes in mammography, Clifford said, He believes in people not getting cancer, has not followed developments in the effectiveness of various specific cancer screenings.
The “aide” has a name..JERRY BROWN!
Sadly, whoever is Governor, the Rat legislature will still be there.
No one is pretending Meg Whitman is a conservative. However, where do you get the information that she is “a megalomaniac nasty scheming liar?”
Whitman is a traditional Republican. Rudy Giuliani endorsed her candidacy and campaigned with her today. She was also endorsed by Newt Gingrich, and she worked for McCain and Romney.
If traditional Republican is not your flavor, you’re free to vote for whomever, but where do you get all the personalized allegations vs. Whitman?
You nailed it. That is the real problem right there, the kook liberal legislature.
I just wonder about people who spend more time and energy attacking Republicans than the Democrats who are causing the worst of our problems.
Agreed. Actually, that’s a line from Dustin Hoffman in Meet the Fockers. Incidentally, I was at Universal Studios in Orlando the week that movie opened. As a promotion, Universal flew people in from around the country whose last anme was Focker. They all walked around Universal Studios wearing t-shirts with big letters stating “I’m a Focker.” Just one of life’s trivial but memorable moments.
First, Meg is arrogant. Her voice and attitude are highly arrogant. She makes Obama look shy.
Second, she has made ads in Spanish that completely contradict what her ads in English say about the AZ immigration law. She went live on the John and Ken show and lied her head off. She was caught in the crossfire and completely showed that she knows nothing but REALLY REALLY wants this job. She has spent over $100 million to get it, and she is making deals with the state unions in secret all while she is claiming to clamp down on the pensions that are killing us. Her sons are sociopaths. Spend a few minutes watching her, and you will know that she is not comfortable within her own skin. She is deeply flawed, just the type of person to not care if she takes a state down with her if something goes wrong. She cares ONLY about herself. She can’t even FAKE interest in the state very well. She doesn’t even vote.
All leftist politics are, also, not effective!
Interesting how you turned a thread about JERRY BROWN denying that mammograms are effective into your own personal rant vs. Meg Whitman.
So, how long have you been working for the Jerry Brown campaign and/or the Democrats?
You have seen me around here for years. You know better than that.
Meg may or may not be better than Brown here. I cannot vote for a lib, so I cannot vote for Brown, but I also cannot vote for Meg. Just because someone gets to have that R by their name does not make them a conservative, or even a decent person. Meg is clearly neither. I held my nose and voted for McCain but I can't bring myself to vote for Meg. That's how bad she is.
I’m getting a whiff of John and Ken here.
Just sayin’...
Because the days of compromising and promising to "work" with the Democrats are over. BTW, the "worst of the problems" you describe happened under a Republican, Arnold.
CA's problems are deeply entrenched and structural. You can't just promise to "cut spending" anymore. Whitman needs to downsize the state gov't and address the illegal alien situation or she'll be Arnold's 3rd term.
I think it originated somewhere on the backside of Mt. Herman over near Scotts Valley.
Jerry Brown- Head candling is effective.
WTH? I was under 50 when a mammogram showed lumps in each breast. They were very small, but they were there. They were removed and fortunately were NOT cancerous. They COULD have been cancerous, and the mammogram found them at a very early stage. Everybody knows that your best chance to beat cancer is to find it early. Well, everybody with half a brain, anyway. When God was handing out gray matter, Jerry was nowhere to be found.
Smelling blood after a Jerry Brown associate used the word "whore" in connection with Meg Whitman's campaign strategy, Republican sources have provided a 15-year-old video of the Democratic gubernatorial hopeful dismissing mammograms in an old interview.Since this mammogram-free world is the official Obama administration position, Brown should be able to count on an Obama-Biden campaign stop. Quibble -- it was Brown who called Meg Whitman a whore, not one of his henchmen.
Shhh. It's Ken's cologne. I am having a secret affair with him.
If any boob needs to be examined, it would be Jerry Brown.
You are a trip sometimes.
The Dems can not override a veto unless its 2/3 and the GOP has the votes.
By the way. WI is alot like CA.
You have the Dems controlling the State house too just like CA and a Gov veto to kill stuff.
Cut us a break !!!
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