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Are All Men Capable Of Becoming Homosexuals?
10/5/2010 | Pinochet

Posted on 10/05/2010 12:14:16 PM PDT by pinochet

This post is inspired by the tragic death of an 18 year old Rutgers University student, who committed suicide after his room mate secretly filmed him having sex with another man. Apparently, the student was so humiliated, that he felt he could not go on living. It is not known if the young man's family was aware of his sexual behavior. A link to the story: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20018574-504083.html

I do not support the liberal gay agenda. But heterosexual men need to start talking openly about difficult issues, which they never talk about with other men. There is no denying that heterosexual men are more insecure about their sexual orientation, than heterosexual women. If women notice that a certain woman happens to be beautiful, they have no problem talking about that woman's beauty. When women notice the beauty of other women, they talk about it openly, without having any concerns that someone will question their sexual orientation.

Men are of course open in admiring the beauty of women. But when a man notices that another man is very good-looking, he will not mention it openly, out of fear that other men will question his sexual orientation. It is hard for some men to openly state that a few men are better looking than many women, even if there is no sexual attraction involved.

That male macho culture, may have contributed to the climate that led the young man to take his own life. I think it is possible for heterosexual men to get in touch with their feminine side, without endorsing the liberal gay agenda.

There is no guarantee that the young man from Rutgers University would have remained gay for the rest of his life, if he had lived. In Britain, Oscar Wilde's teenage boyfriend, Alfred Douglas, married a woman later in life, and became a pro-family conservative Catholic in the 1920s. One of Britain's brightest pro-family conservative politicians in the early 1990s, Michael Portillo, was revealed to have had a gay relationship in college. In the 1990s, Portillo was the British Defence Secretary and was happily married to a woman, and he was in line to succeed John Major as Prime Minister. But gay militants in Britain used the revelations of his college sex life, to destroy his career.


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To: antiRepublicrat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZgwNutwK0Y


181 posted on 10/06/2010 8:08:01 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: little jeremiah

No doubt you are right, in most cases. On the other hand, by the time I was 8, my moral code was pretty firmly fixed, and didn’t change much after I hit puberty. However, neither did my parentage.

That isn’t to say that I haven’t violated it, often. But not without knowing that I was doing wrong. And not by fornication or adultery, unless you count that “lusting in your heart” bit, nor by homosexuality in any circumstance.

I can’t even consciously force myself to think a “gay” thought without my stomach rebelling.


182 posted on 10/06/2010 9:00:28 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: pinochet
The underlying fallacy of this article is it assumes that homosexuality is a normal state of being. Akin to left handedness.

However, homosexuality is always a mental illness. Biology doesn't lie. So to answerthe question "Are all men capable of becomming homosexuals" we need to correctly rephrase it to reflect reality. "Are all men capable of becommming afflicted with homosexuality?" To which the answer is probably yes.

Can all men become afflicted with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? Can all men become afflicted with depression? or with any other mental illness? I think so.

I do not know of a single study that shows that there is no man who cannot be brainwashed under the right circumstances. Enough torture and mental deprivation and conditioning and you can get anyone to do anything.

That still doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is a mental disease resulting entirely from trauma of some sort.

183 posted on 10/06/2010 10:14:51 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: All
All men capable of being homosexuals?

I guess we could say that there is MEDIOCRITY in anything everywhere, even in being a man. I am PROUD to be man! a real man, as far as sexuality; I live/love women too much and the idea of being something "defective" especially when it comes to BEING A MAN, it just makes puke.

No, I don't believe that for a minute!... Unless you have some kind of brain problem or simply a degenerate.

184 posted on 10/06/2010 6:17:04 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

To me, the thing is, everybody has a feminine side. A real man can play dolls with his girls, wear pink, watch girlie movies, all that stuff and never give a thought to whether he might be gay, because he KNOWS he isn’t. The gender-confused ones are always questioning themselves and worrying about it.

“Could” I turn gay? Maybe, maybe not but I think they’re miserable and I would never want to put myself in a place where it was a possibility. Bad enough being an alcoholic.


185 posted on 10/07/2010 6:32:04 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: chesley

I think it’s interesting to think about; Women look sooo cute to me and there’s an undeniable hormone rush when I see a pretty woman. But there’s no analog when I see a man. He’s just a man. He may be very handsome, I may notice, but there’s no hormone rush. So, I wonder what women look like to each other, and what men look like to them. It’s so subjective, it would seem there is no wai to quantify it.


186 posted on 10/07/2010 6:52:01 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: ichabod1

Agreed. The tingle fails to materiale on my leg :)


187 posted on 10/07/2010 7:25:12 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Amen! Quit ripping the hair off your bodies,guys! (Unless there is far too much).


188 posted on 10/07/2010 2:25:44 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: lonevoice

I’m 34 and I love older men,even those who are OVER 60! I love the salt-and pepper hair you older men have. 60 is not old at all.


189 posted on 10/07/2010 2:29:43 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: j-damn

Didn’t they wear stockings as well?


190 posted on 10/07/2010 2:32:29 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t find men to be an aesthetic train wreck at all!


191 posted on 10/07/2010 2:35:43 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: ichabod1

Wrong way.I love seeing this sign at the off-ramps of the interstate.You’d think that people would know the correct way to go.


192 posted on 10/07/2010 2:37:54 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: EyeGuy

I am not going to read 198 replies to see if this thought has already been posted. It seems to me this entire argument ignores the possibility that some men are bi-sexual. A heterosexual man having a homosexual affair does not prove that he changed. It just means he was bi all along. One of these days just such a person will sue for the right to marry both his girlfriend and his boyfriend.


193 posted on 10/07/2010 2:43:10 PM PDT by csmusaret (If the Bush recession ended in June 2009, did the Obama economy begin in July 2009?)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN; Lonesome in Massachussets
I’m 34 and I love older men,even those who are OVER 60! I love the salt-and pepper hair you older men have. 60 is not old at all.

I think you must have been directing your comment to Lonesome in Massachussets, to whom I was responding in the comment to which you replied.

As for me, I'm neither male nor anywhere near 60. :-)

194 posted on 10/07/2010 4:06:37 PM PDT by lonevoice (Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music)
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To: Sherman Logan
One of the best replies on this thread:

The Greeks, for instance, assumed upper-class boys would go thru a phase as “the beloved” of a considerably older man, then get married and have children, and then get into relationships with one or more “beloveds” of their own...

The practice--or something like it-- continues is Afghanistan, I've heard.

Males are bi-sexual I think. Part of it biologically normal and socially necessary, I suspect. Early in life, a male has to "bond" at some level with another male; this bonding steers the child as he matures into manhood. I don't think fathers can meet all of these needs.

I suspect that during this period the child is vulnerable to influences by homosexuals.

I have several gay friends and have observed the way they interact. Not all, but at least half, seem oddly juvenile, as though stuck in pre- or early adolescence. One later fell in love with love with a woman and lived with her. Ive since lost contact with him, so I can't say if they're still together.

Other gays I know are in apparently stable long term relationships. Of these I've noticed that one appears more feminine and the other more masculine.

A lesbian friend once told my wife: "I was attracted more to the person than the sex."

In sum, all people are bi-, but just as true, all people eventually settle into a gender role.

195 posted on 10/08/2010 6:54:53 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: tsomer

Thanks.

How closely the present Afghan practice parallels the ancient Greeks is questionable. The accounts I’ve read make the Afghan men out to be abusive by any standards, while the Greek practice was considered highly honorable and admirable. The “mentor” had to woo the “beloved,” and meet his family, the whole bit.

The Afghans sound more like they’re just practicing abusive pedophilia, but that may be partly a result of ethnocentric bias. One account spoke of more than half the men in one city being involved. That’s a LOT of boys being abused, assuming that’s the right term.

Interestingly, Greek women in most cities were just about as isolated from society as Afghan and most other Muslim women.


196 posted on 10/08/2010 7:31:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lonevoice

Whoops! Sorry.I have a tendency to read too fast.


197 posted on 10/08/2010 1:35:50 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: Chickensoup

That’s just disgusting.Clear proof that homosexuals have no self-respect.


198 posted on 10/08/2010 1:37:22 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: lonevoice

I’m sorry.I’m sitting here laughing at myself!


199 posted on 10/08/2010 1:40:38 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: pinochet; All


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

200 posted on 10/08/2010 1:51:05 PM PDT by The Comedian (Keep talking while I reload...)
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