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Are All Men Capable Of Becoming Homosexuals?
10/5/2010 | Pinochet

Posted on 10/05/2010 12:14:16 PM PDT by pinochet

This post is inspired by the tragic death of an 18 year old Rutgers University student, who committed suicide after his room mate secretly filmed him having sex with another man. Apparently, the student was so humiliated, that he felt he could not go on living. It is not known if the young man's family was aware of his sexual behavior. A link to the story: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20018574-504083.html

I do not support the liberal gay agenda. But heterosexual men need to start talking openly about difficult issues, which they never talk about with other men. There is no denying that heterosexual men are more insecure about their sexual orientation, than heterosexual women. If women notice that a certain woman happens to be beautiful, they have no problem talking about that woman's beauty. When women notice the beauty of other women, they talk about it openly, without having any concerns that someone will question their sexual orientation.

Men are of course open in admiring the beauty of women. But when a man notices that another man is very good-looking, he will not mention it openly, out of fear that other men will question his sexual orientation. It is hard for some men to openly state that a few men are better looking than many women, even if there is no sexual attraction involved.

That male macho culture, may have contributed to the climate that led the young man to take his own life. I think it is possible for heterosexual men to get in touch with their feminine side, without endorsing the liberal gay agenda.

There is no guarantee that the young man from Rutgers University would have remained gay for the rest of his life, if he had lived. In Britain, Oscar Wilde's teenage boyfriend, Alfred Douglas, married a woman later in life, and became a pro-family conservative Catholic in the 1920s. One of Britain's brightest pro-family conservative politicians in the early 1990s, Michael Portillo, was revealed to have had a gay relationship in college. In the 1990s, Portillo was the British Defence Secretary and was happily married to a woman, and he was in line to succeed John Major as Prime Minister. But gay militants in Britain used the revelations of his college sex life, to destroy his career.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: clementi; gatalife; gay; gaygay; gaygaygay; gaygaygaygay; gaygaygaygaygay; gaygaygaygaygaygay; gays; rutgers; suicide; tylerclementi
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To: pinochet

it would take years of isolation in prison or in the Royal Navy, I assume


121 posted on 10/05/2010 1:43:08 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pinochet

All nonsense.


122 posted on 10/05/2010 1:44:55 PM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: swain_forkbeard

“Even more so when he was still alive”.

Good one... see, you are in touch with your feminine side! LOL


123 posted on 10/05/2010 1:45:38 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Lurker

And after the third martini every woman on the planet is bisexual.

Punch line: Sure we did it doggie style, but it took
9 martinis just to get her naked on the front lawn.

Bada boom.


124 posted on 10/05/2010 1:47:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"they want INFLUENCE, ACCEPTANCE, CELEBRATION of what they believe is NORMAL."

IMHO, they truly don't believe (in nearly all cases) that their behavior is "normal", but they are caught up in the indoctrination and hype, plus it is nurtured by an Agenda-Driven political party that endeavors to destroy morality/Christianity by actively ENCOURAGING immoral behavior and gaining votes. The same holds true of the welfare-mentality that is nurtured, to create DEPENDENCY on the political Elites, and buy their favor with other people's earnings.

THIS is what the Tea Party is all about; returning to our Roots, and the principles that founded this once-great Nation.

125 posted on 10/05/2010 1:47:36 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama go:nna take care o' me!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wimmin’s lib and femiNazis of which daycare and single mothers are a symptom.


126 posted on 10/05/2010 1:49:45 PM PDT by tiki
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To: ZULU

“I love my guns- ALL of them”

By ALL of them, you mean ALL of them, right?!


127 posted on 10/05/2010 1:51:17 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: MrB

“Unlikely the third time”

I can send you my chili recipe that will take care of the third time, fourth, and even the fifth. LOL


128 posted on 10/05/2010 1:54:13 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: pinochet

“But when a man notices that another man is very good-looking, he will not mention it openly, out of fear that other men will question his sexual orientation.”

Bull crap. I have two male friends with Greek God looks that have served them well in the world of women and careers. I’ve mentioned it many times in relevant conversations about both of them.

My heterosexuality is firmly cast in stone.


129 posted on 10/05/2010 2:00:31 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: onedoug

Stuff and nonsense.


130 posted on 10/05/2010 2:02:54 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

It has the effect neatness over errant aims.


131 posted on 10/05/2010 2:04:44 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: TalBlack

He had already “outed” himself via filming himself in sex acts and posting it on a “gay” porn site.

The media of course ignores this and his stuff has now been taken off that site.


132 posted on 10/05/2010 2:05:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: pinochet; All

As with most “narratives” constructed over the last 20-30 years regarding sodomites, the prevalence of sodomite relations is exaggerated.

Virtually all men are revolted by sodomite practices. There isn’t enough beer in the world to change that.


133 posted on 10/05/2010 2:05:34 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

*IMO, young men today are too “in touch with their feminine side” as you put it. I’ve never seen such an effiminate, unisex, pantywaist cohort and dare say there hasn’t been such a one since our founding. *

You do realize our first few presidents wore wigs and makeup, right?


134 posted on 10/05/2010 2:06:45 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: pinochet

Are you purposely misrepresenting pro-family activists?

Nothing I’ve read says that “all male kids” can turn homosexual. Nonsense.

The truth is that some boys are more vulnerable, have an absent, cold or abusive father, and older homosexuals are known to prey on such boys, grooming them, often with drugs/alcohol in the mix, and seduce/molest them.

In fact, the majority of homosexuals were themselves molested as young boys, either children or as adolescents.

In fact, any boy who has been molested by a homosexual has a very hard road ahead. And since approximately (last numbers I saw) 1/3 of molestations are same sex, that means that a tiny percentage of the population (2% or less) is doing at least 1/3 of the molesting. That in itself is quite telling.


135 posted on 10/05/2010 2:10:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: onedoug

Hmm.. Decisions, decisions. Improve my aim or act gay.

Improve your aim, soldier!


136 posted on 10/05/2010 2:13:50 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am Derek Fenton! (me) Enjoying freedom ourselves requires tolerating it for others. (Jedidah))
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To: SeekAndFind
In both cases, they never thought of themselves as gay... it just came to them as a result of influence and unsatisfied libido from the opposite sex.

You touch on an important point the left ignores. Homosexual sex is an action not a state of being. Humans are no more born homosexuals than they are born smokers or drug users. Some may be more prone and or dispositioned toward an activity -regardless, as human beings all can choose to engage or not engage in an activity.

Sex like drugs can be regarded as addictive behavior. In the case of homosexual sex, what may start out as experimentation or perceived necessity can if reinforced repeatedly, like a habit, become firmly entrenched in ones psyche...

The left, by promoting homosexual sex as normal and "educating" children all about it is in essence a drug pusher -a pimp that pushes a destructive activity and reinforces a bad self destructive habit that is of no benefit or value to society...

137 posted on 10/05/2010 2:16:52 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: little jeremiah

“....that means that a tiny percentage of the population (2% or less) is doing at least 1/3 of the molesting. That in itself is quite telling.”

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It tells us that the pervert label, is an apt one.

Additionally, it IS indeed LESS than 2%, despite the propaganda onslaught that claims otherwise.


138 posted on 10/05/2010 2:17:40 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: pinochet

I don’t know that the concern about gay adoptions is over normal male kids. But a lot of young people are fragile, and can be influenced either way. Not just about sex, either.


139 posted on 10/05/2010 2:19:57 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"The young man, Clementi, was streaming his own sexual videos of himself and posting on a homosexual forum. This was not a case of a heterosexual harassing a homosexual as the young man that secretly streamed Clementi also had homosexual friends. There is a lot more to this story."

That's interesting. There also seems to be a lack of info about who was the 'another male'. Was he a student or someone outside the university? Was he in on the picture taking? I agree with your 'there is a lot more to this story'.

140 posted on 10/05/2010 2:24:11 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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