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Joe Sobran, R.I.P. [Joseph Sobran, 1946 - 2010]

Posted on 09/30/2010 7:54:18 PM PDT by Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo

Our former NR colleague, Joe Sobran, passed away today after a long battle with a variety of ailments. He was relatively young, just 64, and while physically beaten at the end, he also departed spiritually triumphant.
 
Surely, in short order, there will be ample reflection — much of it critical — on the hyper-talented, hyper-controversial writer. There will be a recounting of his history at NR, the break, the following years, and Joe’s soured relationship with WFB (happily, they rekindled their friendship before Bill passed away). Good, let’s discuss all that, and more. But later. Right now, let us, if only for a minute, pray for the repose of his soul, to hope: That he abides now with his old boss, and they together with our Creator. For the peace that proved so elusive in this lifetime, Joe, may you now have it.


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To: ruination

Agree...and I wonder who accused him...Abe Foxman?

You read the Gospel of John...especially Chapter 8..Jesus calls collectively “the Jews” (that is the ones who rejected him) “children of the Devil,” and says their reliance on pedigree with Abraham is meaningless and their revolutionary approach is misguided....

E. Michael Jones writes extensively about this...Christ is the dividing point in History.

BTW, Judas was a revolutionary ...note what happened to him


21 posted on 09/30/2010 8:49:32 PM PDT by Tribemike1
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To: Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo

What? Wow... I had no idea.

A terrible loss.


22 posted on 09/30/2010 8:51:54 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: iowamark

I’ve never read anything of the sort from Sobran. Can you point me to some of this material?


23 posted on 09/30/2010 8:54:35 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: ruination
I know little about Joe Sobran

So why dont you shut your mouth until you do? He has/had his own web site filled with his bile.

Besides being accused by William Buckley of being an anti-Semite and being fired from NR, he also argued that the 9/11 attacks were a result of the U.S. government's policies regarding the Middle East. He claimed those policies were formed by the Jewish-Zionist powers that rule in the United States .

He was a vile, crooked paleo who went nuts somewhere along the line. God have mercy.

24 posted on 09/30/2010 9:02:10 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Tribemike1
You read the Gospel of John...especially Chapter 8..Jesus calls collectively “the Jews” (that is the ones who rejected him) “children of the Devil,” and says their reliance on pedigree with Abraham is meaningless and their revolutionary approach is misguided....

What bile. What tripe. Read Romans 9 and repent.
25 posted on 09/30/2010 9:07:59 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: grey_whiskers

He gave the single best explanation of the workings of the left I have ever seen...the hive.

I just read it. Wow. An outstanding analysis. He sure has a way with words. I doubt even Buckley could do as good. Losing him is a great loss.


26 posted on 09/30/2010 9:11:39 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Tzfat

Just read John 8 first....


27 posted on 09/30/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by Tribemike1
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To: Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo

A brilliant man. I wish they could clone his brain.

May he rest in peace with the angels and the saints.


28 posted on 09/30/2010 9:14:18 PM PDT by Palladin ("Congress--YOU'RE FIRED!!!")
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To: Tzfat

Abe ? (Foxman) ...is that you?


29 posted on 09/30/2010 9:16:59 PM PDT by Tribemike1
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To: Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo

Ping for later


30 posted on 09/30/2010 9:20:30 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo
I met him (along with John Lott and David Horowitz) at a College Republicans' meeting at the University of Chicago back in the late 1990's. This would have put him in his early 50's then. I remember how surprised I was at how frail he appeared. He seemed way older then than his actual years.
31 posted on 09/30/2010 9:23:53 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Tribemike1
Sobran didn't get fired in the "latter days" of National Review. He was fired 17 years ago. He was also consistently wrong about the authorship of Shakespeare's plays, which were written by William Shakespeare.
32 posted on 09/30/2010 9:26:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.")
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To: Tribemike1

Stormfront is down the road, Spike. Why don’t you take a hike?


33 posted on 09/30/2010 9:27:01 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Pinkbell

Joe’s death is a great loss.

Now, the only paleo we have left is Pat Buchanan.


34 posted on 09/30/2010 9:27:03 PM PDT by Palladin ("Congress--YOU'RE FIRED!!!")
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To: Nonstatist

Good retort...... I remember Sobran as an anti-Semite. I might have agreed with him on other matters but it has been a while


35 posted on 09/30/2010 9:30:52 PM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confuscius.)
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To: grey_whiskers

All young FReepers should read this. It is quintessential Sobran, and it so clearly portrays the Obama Regime.


36 posted on 09/30/2010 9:33:19 PM PDT by Palladin ("Congress--YOU'RE FIRED!!!")
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To: dennisw

IMO, Sobran jumped the shark about 20 years ago. Prior to that I enjoyed his work, especially in National Review. After that, not so much.


37 posted on 09/30/2010 9:43:15 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo
May he requiescat in pace.

38 posted on 09/30/2010 9:44:02 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Tzfat

I think he has who Christ spoke to incomplete...it was the Jewish leadership...the religious leaders...the same could be said of many religious leaders thru the centuries even til today. They demand their memberships to do what they themsleves do not....and yes there are men and now woman in the pulpits who could easily be said are :children of the deveil”...so what’s that guys beef really?


39 posted on 09/30/2010 9:44:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo

He was one of my favorite political authors. Huge loss. RIP.


40 posted on 09/30/2010 9:56:48 PM PDT by Scutter
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